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No that is not the reason. No one can send MSX money because of the Central Banks. Any and all money goes thru the Central Bank and Barrick is the gold agent for the central bank. Therefore no one can send any money to MSX but you already knew that!!!!!
Glad you realize that it takes money. Now for the next question you say all that he has to do is partner up with a major international mining company or consortium so just for giggles NAME just ONE!!! Good luck with that because not one mining company will go up against Barrick. The proof is here because no one has stepped up to move forward. Barrick has left Chile why because they now have no claim in Chile. They have NO TITLE, they have no mining rights and now have told the unions they are exiting. So the richest mine on the planet according to Barrick they are going to abandon. Now that sure makes alot of sense doesnt it??? Barrick has now taken Pascua out of their Q3 results. So it is official they have left and never to return. Once the court is ended in Chile and the results are final we will see if the mine can be opened but until then don't expect anything to move forward
Wow talk about personal attacks and libelous statements that really does go over the top, now doesnt it???
It has been proven that JL does have titles and the ROl has been posted
Here are three Rol Numbers for JL for the Amarillo Sur claims:
033041225
033041222
033041221
So your statement is wrong.
Now the BCSC WHY??? would they LIE at their own hearing and then defend in Chile so vigorously. So they can carry on the ponzi scam with Barrick. WHY ELSE??
So you think the fraudsters at the BCSC are going to send JL to prison guaranteed at law!!! Now please advise what law that would be the fact that JL has not even been charged with anything. Maybe read and find out the facts first??? Ok
Just in Chile. They can't get out fast enough!!!!!
Please review the facts of what is going on in Chile and you will get your answer. First off Barrick is on the run out of Chile. They have sold all of the mining equipment and have told the unions that they are in an exit strategy. Fact two they have removed Pascua from their third quarter report and are now concentrating on Lama and the underground mine. Court action both CMN and the BCSC are defending vigorously not to go to Chile. The funny thing on this issue is that they are both using the same defence as in a JV. Therefore they are in on this scam created by Barrick, BCSC, TSX and the OSC. All of this points in JL's favor!
I think the chances of them impossing a fine is very limited and that will depend on what happens in Chile. They have hired the most expensive law firm in Chile to help them. If they loose this round then they will need to be in Chile before the court the third or fourth week of Sept. We shall see how that works. The likely hood of them collecting well their records has not been very good
https://vancouversun.com/business/local-business/b-c-considering-changes-to-improve-investment-fraud-penalty-collection
I really do believe that you got it all wrong. Barrick has destroyed people's lives, their life savings and financial futures. Barrick has 1.167B shares outstanding and have taken these shareholders from $57.00/share to $9.86/share. Nice return on investment. Just think of all of the money that has been lost by all of the senior pensioners that have invested in Canada's golden company. I really don't think that you have read the posts nor do I think that you know what is going on in Canada or in Chile. Also you are very WRONG because ABX has emptied the MSX treasury for $BILLIONS and BILLIONS with the Goldstrike Property. That was MSX property until little Mikey did a deal. So please read up...
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Corruption scandals in Chile and Canada: the setbacks of Luksic and Barrick Gold
Professor Hall gives a more complete picture of the corruption scandals in Chile and Canada, as manifestations of a policy of deep infiltration of the Barrick Gold Company in the American nations.
ANTHONY-J.-HALLMAY 4, 2015
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In Canada, Nigel Wright - chief of staff to Prime Minister Stephen Harper - has been the focus of the news for a $ 90,000 check he signed for now suspended Senator Mike Duffy. And in Chile, corruption scandals across the political spectrum have unmasked a reality that had been living in the supposed model of transparency in the region.
However, much less attention has been given to the scandalous implications of a payment for $ 9 million former Foreign Minister John Baird for the Munk School of the University of Toronto and the role of Andronico Luksic in the institutional crisis in the country South American. The anatomy of both deals highlights the abundant conflicts of interest linking the Barrick Gold Company with the Canadian government of Brian Mulroney and now Stephen Harper, and the Chilean bicolor political system.
The origins of Barrick Gold
After finishing his term as the most anti-diplomatic Foreign Minister in the history of Canada, John Baird has obtained a privileged position on the International Advisory Board of the Barrick Gold Corporation, whose president and founder was former US President George HW Bush. The current director of the international panel is former Canadian Prime Minister Brian Mulroney.
A scholar of the relations between Mr. Bush and Mulroney in 1997, Anton Chaitkin coined the phrase "Barrick's barracudas". Baird is a recent recruitment of this school of predatory fish that inhabit the murky corners of interaction between business and politics. The boss goes back to 1984 when Adnan Kashoggi visited Ontario to establish the Toronto headquarters of the Barrick company complex.
At the time he was preparing the political, legal and economic foundations of what would be Barrick Gold, the extravagant playboy Kashoggi was among the richest men in the world. This CIA agent and arms dealer also served as the leader of a group of Saudi investors including Kamal Adham, the head of the country's intelligence operations. This strategic link with Saudi wealth was key to the financial subsistence of Western capitals when they relied heavily on Saudi Arabia's support for the transition of the US dollar from a gold-backed currency to an oil-backed currency.
The connection of Barrick Gold through Peter Munk to the family-Bronfman dynasty of Canada, was an important dimension of the Israel-Saudi Arabia axis, a pivotal factor in maintaining the Anglo-American empire. The activities of Edgar Bronfman, as the influential leader of the World Jewish Congress between 1979 and 2007, allow us to glimpse the politico-economic monster that included the Barrick company complex.
Kashoggi met with Ontario premier Bill Davis in 1984 under exaggerated media attention to publicize the registration of what was then American Barrick or Barrick Resources on the Toronto Stock Exchange. We jump to 2015 when former Republican presidential candidate Newt Gingrich became the head of Barrick's international advisory panel.
In 2008, Gingrich was nominated by the Republican Party of the United States to be a presidential candidate. The multimillionaire czar of the Sheldon Adelson bets financed the candidacy. Adelson's political priorities include bringing to the presidency a man who agrees to bomb Iran with nuclear weapons, the number one nemesis of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.
The role of the Munk School in the promotion of aggressive policies of the Harper government against Iran
Weeks before joining Barrick's well-rewarded international advisory panel, Foreign Minister Baird held a press conference in Toronto with Professor Janice Stein, then director of the Munk School of Global Affairs. The Munk School, originated in its current form in 2011, began with a generous donation to the University of Toronto from Peter Munk.
Munk became the public face of the Barrick Gold Corporation after Adnan Kashoggi was exposed in the 1980 Contras scandal - the CIA's financing of militias in Nicaragua with money from cocaine trafficking. Kashoggi was discovered along with some of his fellow Saudi investors as key operatives in a complex web of illegal financial transactions for the White House National Security apparatus.
During and after his presidential term between 1989 and 1993, Bush Sr. took the reins of Barrick's most accelerated international expansion phase. To assist him in this venture, he recruited his colleague Brien Mulroney, with whom Bush had worked intimately to compose the North American Free Trade Agreement, NAFTA. NAFTA was established in 1992, shortly after both were elected to their public offices under clouds of infamy.
On January 6 of this year, Stein and Baird announced that the government of Prime Minister Stephen Harper delivered a grant for $ 9 million dollars to the Digital Public Square Project. In this web manipulation plot, the University of Toronto Munk School was enlisted in a federal operation that evokes old Cold War initiatives to support dissidents in communist countries to join forces and rise up against and overthrow their oppressors allies with the Soviet
This Harper initiative with the University of Toronto is being driven in a context defined by the breakdown of Ottawa diplomatic relations with Tehran in 2012. The unilateral decision of the federal government to break formal relations was introduced by Baird with the incendiary allegation that " the government of Canada sees Iran's government as the greatest threat to current global peace and security. "
Baird continued this series of insults in 2013 by saying that, "The [Iranian] regime is hollow. He does not have the depth, the intellect, the humanity or the humility to bring a better future for his people. "This anti-diplomatic characterization came in spite of the diplomatic transformations that came with the election of Hassan Rouhani as president of Iran in 2013.
The Digital Public Square initiative is a mildly disguised instigation of regime change against Iran and against several other countries on the Harper government's blacklist. Professor Stein tried to guarantee the role of the University of Toronto in the plan. "It's about giving space to different narratives. It's about accommodating different voices, "he said.
A breeze of irony hit me when I saw these words attributed to Professor Stein, who seemed to have trained John Baird to articulate Canada's international positions. When it comes to issues such as relations between Canada and the Islamic Republic of Iran or the Israeli regime, different voices from a wide variety of perspectives in Parliament or the media are the last thing I hear. Instead, what I hear - especially from the airwaves of Canadian public television - is a narrow spectrum of myopic and partial international comments.
In fact, from my own experience as a delegate at an international conference in Tehran in October 2014, I can say that I participated in a much broader and freer discussion of world affairs than would be possible these days at the heavily censored Canadian Broadcasting Corporation (CBC). ). The same comparison can be applied to the closed-door academic environment of the University of Toronto and the cloistered confines of its Munk School.
In 2013, the director of the Munk School, Janice Stein, and the Foreign Minister John Baird were accused of stifling such free academic debate by a coalition of Canadian-Iranian community groups. The organizers of a closed and hermetic academic meeting at the University of Toronto were accused of carrying out "a calculated attempt to marginalize critics and to censor opponents of conservative policies against Iran." The presenters exhibited "aggressive visions" that do not reflect " the visions of the Iranian diaspora. "
Corporate Academy in Canada and dirty laundry in Chile
Peter Munk's donation to the University of Toronto was negotiated in secret with the former president of the university, David Naylor. Dr. Naylor was recently appointed to Barrick's board of directors. The 2011 Naylor-Munk deal is unprecedented in terms of linking the future flow of financing to a major academic unit of the Canadian university.
The director of the Munk School must satisfy Peter Munk - and, after his death, the custodians of his estate - about meeting predetermined academic and "brand" guidelines. The University of Toronto's adoption of these conditions sets unfortunate precedents for corporate sponsorship from other academic institutions.
This pressure against academic freedom is only the beginning of a litany of negative implications permeating the positioning of the Munk School in the academic world. As the website of a coalition of the university called Peter Munk Outside the University of Toronto indicates , "students are right to be concerned that their school is so intimately associated with this company ... accused of human rights violations, labor violations, environmental devastation and / or corruption where they operate. "
This corruption begins in Canada and extends to many countries where Barrick is active, including Peru, Tanzania, Papua New Guinea and Australia. Barrick's appalling record has been highlighted by a number of organizations and NGOs including Mining Watch and Protest Barrick as well as several authors such as Alan Denault, Sakura Saunders, Greg Palast, Alex Constantine and EP Heidner.
Particularly serious from the perspective of the growing attacks on academic freedom at the University of Toronto and other higher education centers is the story of Barrick Gold's intimidation of intimidating, silencing and destroying its critics through a variety of coercive techniques.
The litigious assault in Ontario against the online posts of the Chilean-Canadian miner Jorge Lopehandia became especially aggressive in the early 2000s. With his associates in Vancouver, Lopehandia has achieved considerable traction with the Chilean judicial system demonstrating that he, and not Barrick Gold is the main owner of the title of the immense deposits of gold, silver and copper in the Pascua Lama mine.
Barrick Gold's main man in Latin America is the heir of Andrónico Luksic Sr.'s financial empire. Luksic father was one of the main beneficiaries of the radical privatization of public property imposed in Chile after the US coup in 1973. The banker Andrónico Luksic Jr. has taken over from his father's hostility towards Lopehandia's tireless vindication for the title of one of the richest mineral deposits in the world. Through public outreach serving their politically motivated efforts to extend dishonest loans to the family of Chilean President Michelle Bachelet, Luksic has spoiled his too enthusiastic power game. His attempt to get the approval of the First Family of Chile has generated too much negative publicity against, swallowing Barrick's advance in Chile in a scandal of scandal.
Lopehandia's tenacious defense of his rights and interests is part of a tsunami of problems overwhelming Barrick in what was previously publicized as his main Latin American stronghold. In 2013, Peter Koven accused Barrick in the Financial Post of Canada of "ruining the Pascua Lama project as awkwardly as no mining company has ruined a major project."
Exploiting public interest for private and corporate profit
As the recent Canadian Foreign Minister, John Baird has played a key role in Barrick Gold's legal interactions, for example in the case of Jorge Lopehandia. Lopehandia has had a lot of company when it comes to introducing claims of native peoples in several of the countries where Barrick barracudas operate.
Barrick has emerged as a political order in an international affairs structure in which 75 percent of mining companies are based in Canada. It seems that a loose audit of the stock exchanges of Toronto and Vancouver, together with the lack of serious regulation by the Canadian federal government, has turned Canada into a magnet of laissez-faire for extractive companies of different types.
There is an unmistakable stench of conflict of interest around John Baird in his work in and out of Stephen Harper's cabinet. The clearest indicator of this misconduct began at the same time he delivered a check for $ 9 million dollars to the Munk School of Global Affairs. The purpose of the donation was to promote the transformation of the University of Toronto into a partisan partner in the decidedly aggressive interactions of the Canadian government against Iran.
Just weeks after the handing over of public funds to the Munk School, the Barrick Gold Corporation reciprocated the gesture. On his first days back as a private citizen, Baird joined the international advisory board of Peter Munk's University of Toronto's main gold funding medium.
Thus, John Baird followed a path opened by former US President George HW Bush and Brian Bulroney. Mulroney joined Barrick's barracudas after receiving cash from Karlheinz Schreiber for services offered while he was prime minister of Canada, which cleared the way for Prime Minister Stephen Harper.
As foreign minister, Baird intervened in 2012 to avoid allegations that Harper's former chief of staff, Nigel Wright, was guilty of conflicts of interest by promoting Barrick Gold's interests with his superior. Next, Wright was investigated by Mary Dawson, parliamentary ethics supervisor, on the suspicion that she had played a role on three occasions advocating for a Canadian position vis-a-vis mining exploitation in Latin America preferred by Barrick.
The National Post paraphrased the former minister's characterizations of Wright's interactions with the Barrick Gold Company as well, "Wright did nothing wrong; he only listened to Barrick's concerns, without saying anything, relegating the matter to other people responsible for the folder and did not get involved in any decision related to the company. "
What credibility do these words have with the subsequent induction of Baird and David Naylor into the intimate sanctuary of Barrick Gold through the company's deep infiltration into the academic life of the University of Toronto? Here is another sign that the Harper government's ethical initiative is a sham, personified in Baird's recent access to state secrets to serve Barrick Gold.
Accompanied by an email guaranteeing Stephen Harper's Chief of Staff that the deal was "in the oven," Nigel Wright delivered the now-famous $ 90,172 check to suspended Senator Mike Duffy. This payment is seen by many as a smoking gun in the ongoing high-profile criminal trial in Ottawa.
Wright's close friend is Anthony Munk, his former colleague at the capital firm Onex Corporation. Wright's closeness to the Munk family is defined in his role as godfather to Peter Munk's grandson. "I fully trust" Nigel Wright, Munk Sr. declared in 2011. Munk's trust in his grandson's godfather was reflected in Wright's appointment with Andrew Coyne and Ken Whyte to the board of directors of the Aurea Foundation.
With its annual debates at the Munk School of Global Affairs, the Aurea Foundation is another example of the machining of the limits of acceptable discourse in the mainstream media and academia. This discourse highlights above all the deregulation of business and maximum freedom for Israeli expansionist policies, both political priorities for the new barracudas of Barrick, John Baird and Newt Gingrich.
An academic alternative to the Munk School of Global Affairs?
After two decades of intense interaction in the courts of Chile and Canada, with representatives of the Canadian mining leviathan, the survival of Jorge Lopehandia says a lot. Not only has it retained its legal basis, but it is gaining strategic territory. From his adverse experience, Lopehandia has developed his own personal perspective of what he sees as Barrick Gold's ruthless and anti-ethical way of doing business.
Lopehandia is especially critical of the effects of Barrick's accounting machinations on the decreasing value of the numerous pension funds that heavily bet on what was once seen as a leading company. The revolt of retirees is felt again in 2015, with several administrators of pension funds repeating the main themes of their protests of 2013.
A common thread of claims in their no-confidence votes is the high compensation rate for Barrick executives. This tendency to allocate succulent pay to the top brass is reminiscent of the days when George HW Bush was generously rewarded for plotting the transactions that catapulted Barrick Gold from obscurity to the number one merchant of gold and its derivatives in the world.
According to Lopehandia, the great rewards for executives and their political advisors reflect the reality that the most important asset for Barrick is access to the internal citadels of political, judicial and media influence. A common pattern that circulates throughout this process of infiltration involves the corruption of the state to take advantage of its coercive force to displace native peoples of valuable natural resources.
The regularity of this expansionary pattern in the growth of the Barrick Gold Corporation flows naturally from its history of millionaire exchanges in the mining stocks of the Toronto Stock Exchange. The rise towards prominence in Toronto has been based on the dispossession and displacement of native peoples in search of the development of one mining boundary after another in northern Ontario.
This same general trajectory of expansion through indigenous dispossession continues through spaces like Barrick Gold towards a broader international scope. It is a process that is making Canada synonymous with the dirtiest and most exploitative networks of the extractive industry.
Lepenhandia, father of university children, speaks eloquently about the tragic subordination of one of the oldest and most prestigious universities in Canada to the orders of corporate subversion. He asks rhetorically, "Why pay honors to those who have benefited the most from the kind of scandalous incursions that give the Canadian mining industry a bad name among a lot of decent people in Latin America and Africa? What message do we give to the young people treating characters like Peter Munk, Brian Mulroney, John Baird and Newt Gingrich as models for the future leaders of the country? "
According to Lopehandia, part of the funds received by the Munk School of Global Affairs are, in fact, stolen from him and from people like him in Barrick Gold's global rush for spoils. He talks about the kind of alternative to the Munk School that he would like to donate in the event of being victorious in his crusade to create a fairer model to exploit the riches of the vast precious metal deposits of Pascua Lama in a sustainable manner.
Lopehandia emphasizes that an alternative to the Munk School in which he would like to get involved would be in the promotion, rather than the limitation, of academic freedom. The type of institute that Lopehandia has in mind would be a tribune of academic meritocracy that will provide respect, recognition and security to those voices of dissent emanating from outside the inner circle of privilege and power.
Such a center of excellence would renounce, instead of cultivating, the conditions of exclusion like those that led the Iranian-Canadian community groups in 2013 to accuse the Munk School of organizing an event at closed ports to promote the aggressive policies of the ruling party. Instead of responding appropriately to valid criticism, the anti-Iranian association of the University of Toronto and the Harper government was solidified in 2015 with the announcement of John Baird and Professor Stein of a substantive federal largesse for the Munk School.
A Lopehandia Globalization Studies School would adhere, rather than disdain, open academics to declaring the truth to power circles, even when that power takes the form of a corporate leviathan like Barrick Gold with its hidden history of dealings with the most ambiguous variety of former public officials.
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Very informative post. Just wondering if you have a time line for this to happen?
In this post you are mentioning NEW TITLES when will this happen as I think that once that happens every court case would be fast tracked.
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and shall mean NEW TITLES to me ordered to be MANDATORY LAW at MINA PASCUA 2018 or 2019 as per Chilean mining legislation.
I just wonder if the so called non JL possible titles are the reason that Barrick is on the run.
WOW!!!!!
Yes because you told me that those were his titles. I had not idea what they were when I first posted you were the one that said they were his titles.
So yes I have been posting those as his titles every since you said they were.
Again NOT once have I said he has clean title. All I have ever said is he has something and the ROL numbers prove it. Various posters have said he has nothing and I am just showing nope he has something. Again I have never said that he has won. All I have said is Barrick fought for 20 years to get the injunction lifted and they succeeded. Now as soon as they succeed they are in a massive sell off of equipment and are leaving Chile. Now why would that be????
Oh my the BCSC let's see they hold an open court with their panel and LIE in their own hearing. Now why would they de-fraud their own hearing and outright lie to their own panel. They say that they have no invite to Chile and state that they know nothing about it. Yet they are in the process of hiring the most expensive law firm in Chile to defend them. Yup I really want to comment on a bunch of liars and cheats that lie to their own people. That really makes sense now does it?????
Man oh man NO WHERE did I say that JL has WON!!!!! All I am saying that since the injunction has been lifted Barrick has sold off all of their equipment and has told the unions that they are in exit mode. Barrick is not acting like a company that has WON anything!!!!Why is Barrick on the run out of Chile?? What has happened that they fought for 20 years to get the injunction lifted, then get it lifted and are in a mad exodus strategy. So something has happened somewhere to cause this??? So you are in the know WHAT HAPPENED?????Barrick is not responding as if they have won anything.
WHAT??? does that have to do with anything. Your comments make no sense. Barrick has left Chile. They will never mine in Chile period. That part is over. Now clean up the mess and finish off the court actions...
YKR what DON'T you get. Barrick has LEFT CHILE!!!!! That would tell me that they have LOST and lost big time. They have sold all of their equipment. They have told the unions that there is an exit plan in place. They have left and will NEVER mine an ounce of gold, silver or copper in CHILE....
So no matter what you say about the court cases ACTIONS SPEAK LOUDER than words!!!!!!! BARRICK HAS LOST
YKR they must not be meaningless as Barrick is on the run out of Chile. If they were meaningless Barrick would not have sold all of their equipment. They would not have sent a mountain of sludge down the mountainside to create an environmental problem. They would not have told the union that they are leaving. Nope YKR you are wrong!!!!! There is no way that the world's largest gold miner would have left the world's largest gold, silver and copper mine. MTStack can put what ever spin on this but they mean something that they stopped Barrick cold. Barrick fought for 20 years to get the injunction lifted and as soon as that happens they leave!!!!! Something is wrong here folks??????
One more time there is no fraud:
Here you go:
Here are three Rol Numbers for JL for the Amarillo Sur claims:
033041225
033041222
033041221
Ok
LMFAO, this is so funny as you dont get it. This started in the USA and SD said that he had all of the info on this to prove that Barrick had defrauded MWR through little Mikey. Now SD told BJ that he would support him and bring him all of the evidence for a win. But of course he never did and so this has carried on. WHY do you think that Barrick is paying for the lawyers to fight this geee......duh.......
Yes I do believe that this is the case that SD was going to appear at because he had the smoking gun that would break the case wide open in MSX's favour. Well I guess we all know what happened there now dont we. Also goes to show you the type of individual SD really is now doesnt it.
OH OK YKR anything you say. You know that old saying that actions speak louder than words. You can tout all of the cases up and say that JL lost but the fact of the matter is that Barrick fought for 20 years to get the injunction lifted and finally finally got it lifted. Now they are free to go mine Pascua Lama. Nope not so fast we will sell all of the mining equipment and we will get out of Chile real fast .... Gee I wonder why they are in full retreat?????? Maybe we should ask JL!!!!!!!. The fact is JL lost but Barrick is in full retreat and will never mine the Chile side of Pascua Lama. No matter what cases you bring up Barrick is gone like the LOOSERS they are!!!!!!!!!!
HMMMM you talk about winning. Now let's see you say that Barrick has won all of the case even got the injunction lifted that they are free to go mining Pascua Lama and WHAT DO THEY DO??????? They sell of all of their mining equipment and tell the unions that they are leaving Chile for good. Sounds to me like JL won that battle!!!!!!! Now the BCSC say JL has nothing and have been invited to Chile as of Aug 16 to present their information YET what do they do????? They refuse to go and hire the biggest Law Firm in Chile to file a dilatory and then because the court said no, they file an appeal.....HMMMMM Winning!!!!!!!! Nope YKR there is alot wrong with your theories!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
YKR WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN??????? Things have already changed!!!!! The BCSC has been invited to Chile as of Aug 16 to report on their activities. It is so serious that they have hired the most prestigious law firm in Chile to file their appeal so they dont have to go. Now that is serious. Hmmmmm I think JL invited them now dont you......WINNING!!!!!!!!!!
Yaaaa you finally agree BARRICK has committed fraud. Well what have you done about that NOTHING!!!!!! Right. So complain to the BCSC about MSX what about Barrick????? You send files on MSX to the BCSC, What about Barrick??
WHY??? because it doesnt matter the BCSC is also in on this fraud. WHY would the BCSC lie in front of their own Panel as they know nothing about any Exhorts yet 3 weeks later have hired the BEST Law firm in Chile to write a dilatory of why they should not go. Then the court as of Aug 16 says you have to go. Then they have the high priced Law Firm write an appeal. Now why dont they want to go and find out the TRUTH???? Why oh WHY????? Because they already know the TRUTH that is WHY???? They are committing fraud and you want the fraudster to convict MSX of FRAUD. Now that is about the funniest thing you have ever done LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So in your mind Barrick has not committed a fraud. Let's see they have never told anyone or published the fact that there was an injunction on the property and Barrick could not mine it. Therefore they defrauded their shareholders, the banks and the Security commissions. Then when the injunction was lifted there was no report on it or news release. Gee more fraud. Now they are pulling out of Chile, gee more fraud. I wonder why the BCSC, the OSC or the SEC is not doing an investigation. Oh that's right they support it and that is why the BCSC must go to Chile.
So let the fraud continue................
Braelorne what a useless conversation. The fight is still on in Chile and in BC with the BCSC. This is so far from over it is ridiculous but you should already know that. The MSX shareholders all that is happened is MSX has been halted. If all of the points are proven out and the BCSC releases the halt then MSX is back trading. So at this point the MSX shareholders have lost nothing.
You asked for titles and I produced the ROL number to show that Jl has titles. You are the one spouting embezzelment and con men and thievery etc. etc. I am merely pointing out that you are wrong. BTW GURANTEED!!!....AT LAW!!! Now what law and who's law YOURS!!!!!! LMFAO........
Oh Braelorne please how many times have we been over this. JL has title you know it and I know it. Oh yes and you want proof:
Here are three Rol Numbers for JL for the Amarillo Sur claims:
033041225
033041222
033041221
Now Barrick is on the run out of Chile and even their quarterly report there is no more Pascua it is only Lama and the tunnel to no where. So Barrick won all court cases and yet are pulling out sold all of their equipment and have told the union they are gone. Yup actions speak louder than words and now they are gone. This presents a huge problem for the BCSC that have not allowed JL and his evidence to be presented. I guess they will be invited to Chile to answer that question.
So there you go Braelorne........
He did but the BCSC would not accept it as his evidence. They have all of the paper work and will not allow it. Gee do you think this is why they have been invited to Chile to discuss this matter. He has shown this to the Chile Judicial system and everyone in Chile knows. WHY do you think that Barrick has an exit plan. Why do you think that Barrick has sold off all of their equipment. They are liquidating and leaving pronto.There is absolutely nothing left for Barrick in Chile and that is why their quarterly report does not mention Pascua. It is all Lama and the underground mine. Hmmmm I wonder WHY. LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
We have been through this and through this they did and have presented them and presented them but the BCSC does not believe JL because Barrick says they have titles and we all know they dont. Now why oh why is Barrick leaving Chile?????
Here you go titles
Here are three Rol Numbers for JL for the Amarillo Sur claims:
033041225
033041222
033041221
So enough of no titles
Oh man oh man oh man as you keep spouting off embezzlement and calling everyone a thief. Only one problem you are very wrong. You said JL owns nothing yet I posted his titles. The fact that there is title is the fact that there is no embezzlement and no crime committed. But then again if you were a real MSX shareholders you would know that.........
So you say that JL has lost every case brought before the court but something is very wrong with that statement. You see if this was true then that would mean that Barrick has won all. Let's do the facts Barrick won the injunction to get it lifted, Correct?? Now Barrick is free and clear to go mining Pascua Lama on the Chile side, Correct?? But what has Barrick done they have sold all of the equipment in Chile and have told the Unions that they are in an exit strategy to get out of Chile. So please tell me what has JL lost??? Seems to me that he has Barrick on the run, dont you think??? Now onto the BCSC, I wonder when they have to appear I think that they are in countdown mode. Now this could be very difficult for the BCSC as I do believe they are on the wrong side of the equation and are in for a world of hurt. So somehow JL seems to be winning in Chile with Barrick and the BCSC, now isnt that interesting.
Oh man I can't agree with you more. Barrick has been conning people since 1997 when they acquired Lac Minerals and found out that they were title less at Mina Pascua so they invented Pascua Lama and now the con still continues as Lama and the underground tunnel mine to no where. I really can't believe that this con is still carrying on but it is.
Crazy isnt it.........
Yes those are the facts and YES Barrick got the injunction lifted that they could go mine and WHAT are they doing ?????? They are leaving Chile sold off all of their equipment and will never mine one ounce of gold, silver or copper in Chile. SO please tell me what did Barrick WIN???? Other than nothing because they had nothing to win in the first place NO TITLES!!!!!!
The truth ok here you go as you say,
The truth? These are all the same judges who have ruled against JL in over 80 cases....so what "truth" from the judges are you talking about????
So the truth Barrick has won every case against JL yet Barrick is selling off all of their equipment in Chile and are doing a massive exit plan. They have told the union that their jobs are gone. So Barrick has won all cases yet their actions state that they have lost and will not ever mine Pascua in Chile. This really does not sound right now does it . So this is your truth, Hmmmmmm.......
The BCSC has no clue and this is why in open hearing they stated that they KNEW nothing about the exhorts or subpoenas to go to Chile. They lied at their own hearing, yup they sure do play by the rules. So therrefore they already know the truth and are terrified because they have been supporting Barrick all along. Even the email of Dec 15 where if MSX put out a PR that Barrick owned the rights to Pascua Lama they could trade again. Yup and you trust the BCSC.... LMFAO!!!!!!
The BCSC has lied, cheated and stole through this whole sorted affair and now have no clue what to do. Now the BC Government and the Minster of Finance is involved.
The BCSC knows full well that all of the documents are relevevant to the case and that is why they are lying. That is why they hired a lawyer in Chile to get them out of the problem. They are doing everything they can not to go to Chile because they are guilty and complicite. If they weren't they would go to try and end this and maybe find out the real reason WHY Barrick has abandon Pascua in Chile
As I have stated sooooo many times before all of the documentation has been given to the BCSC but they don't believe what is being presented and think that it is phony. They might end up in Chile to find out first hand for themselves. When they had the opportunity to go and talk to the judges they probably would have gotten the truth. This whole story news releases have all been published and there is no coverage no words no nothing. It is almost like the press and media has been told to leave this story alone. I wonder if this is all part of the FAKE News Media that we have been hearing about. Hmmm any guesses
Oh I get it so all of the court cases going on in Chile dont mean anything. Ok and the titles that are listed in JL name also mean nothing to you. Ok well here you go:
Here are three Rol Numbers for JL for the Amarillo Sur claims:
033041225
033041222
033041221
These are JL's titles but you already knew that didnt you.
Yes we all know that this has been going on since 1997 when he tried to sell his titles to Barrick for $2 million. Barrick changed the agreement to $20.00. Such a nice company. This is court documented. So you do get the part about selling his titles, RIGHT!!!!!!!.
You also do get the part that Barrick got the injunction lifted and now are running as fast as they can from Chile. Now Pascua is no longer part of their quarterly report. The SEC, OSC and BCSC should investigate as too WHY???
With a comment like that you have not done any research on this whole sorted affair. You do understand that this is a David versus Goliath story. If you understand that then you would understand why this is still in court and why this has not been mined yet