tutankhamuns, that comparison between EVSV and TCHT tells it all, Trina's long negative history has held EVSV back, in other words, folks want to see that drastic change that is needed here, not the so far, Ma & Pa revenues that we have experienced, then, and only then we might see what every regular shareholder here has waited for for way too many years, our stock at real new much higher levels, meanwhile the months keep fling by and we are still, stock price wise, no better off.