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Looks like some shorties bailing this morning. Did I hear someone predicting 0.50 cents? Bzzzzzzzzz
Here here. It wasn't to long ago that your leader said it'll be up 1400% in no time. Then it tanked further. Now $2.00 is sweet?
Have the sites been adjusted so quickly?
Dilution kills investor value. The 500,000,000 shares that were authorized back fired on investors including institutions who voted for it. Its obvious the company has been selling into the market thereby putting pressure on an already low price. No doubt thepenny price tag will remain there probably for years bouncing along within a tight range never showing any signs of recovering. The company will see to that with their ongoing dilution.
Expenses will grow as they burn cash. Sales will never offset expenses and losses will continue. Sales are in the distance and then only a wish.
Longs betting on the company recovering soon have placed a bad bet. They're stuck in a hole they dug themselves.
Hogwash will continue to promote in an effort to shine light and give hope. As was witnessed in the past, it will have no effect. .Followers will however look to those posts so to take comfort. Temporary feel good won't translate into results however.
Fundamentals are and will continue to be lacking. Clearly, as witnessed by the never ending selling and lack of buying support, the stock will be under pressure.
Some Longs so dedicated will continue to think the px is a bargain. They'll continue to buy shares ignoring all common sense investment principals to do so. This is the price they pay.
Its all a sad commentary for those so committed for all the wrong reasons. R.I.P
Hog, I agree that selling at $2 would be sweet. FCEL timing of selling shares is always out of sync with macro economics. If we had 500 mil shares on the selling table in Feb '21, at $28 a share, we would never have any issues with funding projects. But that is what makes the market interesting.
Just a guess we sold 60-80 mil shares in last couple weeks and the price eases up to $1 just before earnings. What is your opinion where we are?
"Todays price is below total of cash on hand"
they have that cash on hand due to dilution...and they are able to keep that cash on hand because of dilution...Fcel was hoping for the Gov to send them welfare checks to keep them from having to dilute...but the Gov has not yet felt the desire to do so...Fcel hoped that Exxon would bail them out with a fat contract...but year after year all fcel gets is an extension and a public pat on the rump after which Exxon tells them to run along now...if you are wondering why the pps is so low, you might want to think about these things...
"My take on the "dilution" is that the same institutional buyers and savvy longs that follow this company are buying."
well someone is sure buying...and they have since 20 bucks a share...all the way down...im not sure exactly what is "savvy" about continuing to buy shares that do nothing but continually drop and drop and drop...
" In other words " a gift""
a stock that keeps hitting new yearly lows day after day is not a "gift"...not of you keep buying it as it keeps dropping...i asked you the last time you bought this "gift" why you are buying it instead of just waiting for it to stop dropping and reverse the trend?...i have made a lot of money trading this stock...but i dont just blindly buy the...im not interested in losing money every single time i buy it...i dont care if one day it eventually comes back to take me to breakeven...many will tell you that patience is the key to making money in fcel...but its not buying the stock all over the place and then waiting for it to come back up that is the patience you should be exercising...patience should be exercised BEFORE you buy...not AFTER...
"Any doom and gloom you put out there now is humorous."
im talking about the pps...the business or rather lack of it...dilution...the buying and selling...these are things you can see...if it sounds like im talking about "gloom and doom" then maybe you should think about why it looks that way...even to you...
Could resist buying some shares at 84 cents. I'm about ready to take a loan to buy at these prices. Can't wait to see BlackRock and vanguards next filing. Absolutely selling shares for some good reason at this price. Just wish they could have gotten authorization when the share price was closer to $2.
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Nice Steve, wish I could say the same. I did pick up 500 though. I also threw a little $ at May $1 options. They are obviously selling shares since no one with a brain is selling at $1 or under. Certainly not to the tune of 10+M shares let alone 50M. Im anxious to find out what for. Might be to close on property for 400MW manufacturing facility
Ditto, I blocked a few people on here many moons ago. They clearly don't reflect all the facts.
My take on the "dilution" is that the same institutional buyers and savvy longs that follow this company are buying. Todays price is below total of cash on hand plus plant, equipment and future recurrent generation. In other words " a gift". Maybe you were a toddler when FCEL hit 0.13 cents a share, with the S.Korean litigation, no cash, and terrible debt. Any doom and gloom you put out there now is humorous. Really.
29 mil buys...17 mil sells...pps drops 8%...
i smell dilution...
pps wanted to recover but was dragged back down by dilution...imo
plenty of buyers...but they were buying new shares being dumped by fcel...had little positive impact on pps...imo
After a respite which should come soon, the path to $75 and lower will resume.
Longs are desperately trying to talk this dog up. They're even going as far as to adding shares to support it. Whose listening. Surely not the market.
But wait All that potential; all those institutions with their enormous ownership; all that cash; all that news, all of HOGWASHES effort to convince others.
Result- $.80 and dropping.
There you go again. "Potential" ! I guess you never studied physics in school.
There are 2 types of energy. Potential and Kinetic. Potential is inert; it doesn't move, its idle in waiting. Kinetic is energy in motion; it drives ; it causes power.
So sit with your "Potential" and hope some day it becomes kinetic. Until then; R.I.P.
I'll give you this; the stock is way Oversold and due for a bounce before resuming its path to $.75 cents and maybe lower. Have fun and watch.
" I think the "potential" for FCEL is greater than ever."
oh yea...sure...i mean just look at how far it has dropped over the last few years or even the last few months...hitting new yearly lows almost every day...and after being in business for 50 years, investors STILL can only point to the "potential"...lol
"It is exciting to follow this stock."
if you get excited by watching every purchase you make drop by double digit percentage points for days after you bought it, then yea, its a blast!...
LMAO!
It is exciting to follow this stock. It is not typical for electricity generators because it can be configured to do so much more. I like the small footprint, Most lifespans for each unit longer than 15 yrs or more. And carbon capture of course. At the risk of stirring up the "mosquitoes" I think the "potential" for FCEL is greater than ever. I am an individual investor only. Glad to hear from you and longs everywhere.
Dedicated Longs ( few as they are) continue to support and add as the stock drops every day.
Their reasoning- The stock is cheap.
The basic tools of investing escape them. Without sound judgment and the employment of basic tenants of investing, they dig a deeper hole to climb out of.
Ask them for a reason they'll tell you " the fundamentals". Ask them what fundamentals they speak of they'll tell you " its coming" Ask them where in the quarterly reports they are included they have no answer.
Its a sadly humorous story.
They'll be buying it down to near $.50 if they wait. For the patient, they may even see $.25. There they may sit for years waiting for the payoff.
But wait; ITS IN THE FUNDAMENTALS ! IT'S ALL THOSE CONTRACTS THEY'RE GOING GET.
Garbage in; Garbage out!
I don’t get near the chance to post as I used to due to my job change about 5 1/2 years ago. But I have been in this stock since 2001… sold about 1/2 my holdings during the huge run-up to $29 and now have more shares than I did prior to that run-up.
A familiar name from pre-run! Good to hear from you! I too am adding at every level. Macro economics have been a bear lately but see no specific FCEL news to be concerned about. Good luck to all longs!
I have proudly increased my holdings by about 15% over the last 3 trading sessions or so.
About you being dead wrong…time after time after time…
“King James 1
Re: Hoghead7 post# 58975
Thursday, 04/04/2024 3:55:18 PM
Hog, I added more at 1.10 last week. I feel confident monetary policy easing will boost the market mid year. Shorts are being pretty risky. When the music stops and there are no shares to buy the covering frenzy will be quite a sight.”
Everything in your post is dead wrong
It's at .80 cents a share idiot. He has been spot on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So after all the negative posts by Mr Hopester in December of 2020 and no prediction of the future tripling of the share price for FCEL, all that he predicted was the demise of FCEL. Hmmm.... I mean bzzzz....
Mr Hopester, look at your post #30596 and 30611 which was during the run up to $28/share from December 2020, to February 2021. Sounds very familiar. Bzzz.
# 30619 from another poster is prescient. Please sell all your shares (haha!) Oh? You don't have any? Too bad. Bzzzzzz..... Oh and 30620 WTF!!!! Now thats some really good DD. 30653? What more can I say?
LOL. $.86 on its way to my cal of $.50.
Fundamentals at work. For Sure !
Keep the comedy coming.
As cold as it is, I am surprised to hear buzzing so early in the morning. And for no apparent reason than to make noise. FCEL is here today because it is an efficient mechanism for creating energy in ways that don't continue to pollute our planet. Some climate change deniers probably like to just buzz about anything because it takes too much effort for them to say anything constructive. At least the buzzing is amusing enough to be tolerable. No really enlightening insight though. I wonder what the buzz is about the stock price of FCEL on May, 2, 2024 at 1:45? Read the chart and plug in the fundamentals. Easy peasey right? Bzzzzzzz......
He says- Quote " All new news over the last 4 months"
To understand the importance the market places on that news all one has to do is review the stocks performance.
$1.82 down to $.90. Down 50% from the intraday high..
$308+M project assets, $349M cash!!! Added 3 projects to generation in Q1, total now 62.8MW with RECURRING Rev averaging approximately $63M or over $15M per Q. New 1MW contract with UCONN, and 1.1MW contract with The US DOE in Ukraine. Project with Exxonmobil in Rotterdam and extension and expansion of long term JDA through 2026. $10M per year, minimum, total of at least $29M from Exxonmobil. We now have freedom to use our tech with anyone. New project in California & Near term business expected in SK up to 100+MW. All new news over less than 4 months.
Read Closely
https://s21.q4cdn.com/256256048/files/doc_financials/2024/q1/FCEL-Q1-2024-Financial-Results-Presentation-FINAL-1.pdf
Quote " Past Performance is no promise of future values."
Oh no ? But TRENDS and Fundamentals do have predictive value.
Remeber when it broke trend at $29.30 and never looked back. And then you should review the last 12 quarterly reports closely and tell me why those fundamentals you believe exist didn't prevent the 3 year drop.
You've ignored just about every metric that's used to determine a stocks value. Instead you base your thinking on what you GUESS is coming. That guessing game has been going on for 3 years. All its produced is lower prices and losses.
You're basic understanding of fundamentals and technicals lacks sound investment reasoning. Counting on what Hogwash tells you has got you where you are ........ deep in red ink with allot of wishful thinking.
The market sees it differently.
No one said much about the Dow or Nasdaq because this is the fcel board…why would anyone be talking about them unless what they are doing pertains to fcel…
I notice you didn’t even mention fcel in your post because you know damn well that hopester did speak to the charts of fcel and he did state what was likely to occur and what he stated did in FACT happen…
But instead of addressing what WAS stated, you chose to address what wasn’t stated???…lol
The fact is, if you or anyone else had paid attention to what Hopester has been saying for quite some time, you would be FAR better off…I know you don’t like that but it is still true…
You need to stop thinking of stocks like they are your favorite football team…cheer them on win or lose?…that’s how you lose money…
And yet those mosquitoes have more savvy than all the blind Longs combined.
You see, the mosquitoes have been right. You know nothing about charts from your post.
I'll send you a book of basics if it'll help.
Where are all those institutions that the LONGS said were so important.? 29 million shares today. 60+ million shares yesterday. Where's the support.
C'mon Longs ; step up and stop the bleeding.
https://bigcharts.marketwatch.com/quickchart/quickchart.asp?symb=fcel&insttype=&freq=&show=
The NASDAQ dropped 1163 points in 7 trading days since April 11th. And yet no one on this board can make that prediction ahead of time. Since March 28th the DOW dropped 1869 points in two weeks, yet none of the self promoters on this board gave any indication that they could predict that. By the time you look at a chart, or analyze any fundamentals you are only reporting history. The National Inquirer can do that for heavens sake.
And as you are well aware " Past performance is no promise of future value". Pesky mosquitoes. Incessant buzzing.
Institutions really supporting this collapse......... aren't they.
It's most interesting to read how many dedicated Longs are willing to continuously buy without understanding why the stock has no market support at all.
I've never seen anything like it. Almost sadly humorous.
"i thought the main hydrogen production discussions were with NuScale Energy for use with Nuclear reactors very promising except the US doesn't seem to want to have nuclear unlike the rest of the world."
hedgehog will ignore your post because he doesnt want to inform anyone that the Nuscale/Fcel deal went up in smoke...Nuscale was going to build a huge facility and use fcel but it aint getting built after all...
"Screw it, Just bought 500 shares pre-market with bill money."
you are not going to make your Yugo payment so that you could buy $500 worth of fcel?...so that you could profit about 50 bucks if it goes up 10%?...
yikes!...things are getting desperate in hogwash land...
"Yeah I definitely know we are GOING UP too much attention now as that Huge buys yesterday with 4 times the normal volume is a CLEAR SIGNAL"
huh....maybe that signal really wasnt so clear...
"you know when Shorts can’t do much down pressure with this huge volume"
and yet, the pps is down again...yet another multi year low...
at some point you are just going to have to realize this isnt shorts or manipulation...its a whole lot of things...its big players dumping and getting out or reducing...and/or its fcel dumping shares...its fcel's poor performance...its fcel losing money while spending huge amounts of money trying to keep the doors open...its the economy looking shaky again...theres no gov welfare checks in the mail that were supposed to have been recieved YEARS ago...Exxon said no to a new contract but insists on stringing fcel along...etc etc
Looks like the "manipulation" you excuse the downdraft to is at work again. You'll be "manipulated " down to $.75 soon if this "manipulatikon" continues.
3 years of this had of course nothing to do with the never ending losses, drop in sales, dilution, technicals , analysts research. It's all been shorts ad "manipulation". LMAO
Watch Oil. If the whoe mideast region is drawn in the conflict, oil goes thru the roof and hydrogen becomes preferred along with solar, nuclear and wind.
Competitive pricing has been a stumbling block. Oil and the concern of nations to get adequate supplies, could turn them to hydrogen and other alternatives.
Cross your fingers LONGS. You'll know soon.
For now, buy on the never ending weakness. It'll be a BOGO if this continues.
STOP GETTING STUNG. GET"OFF". IT WORKS.
MESSAGE TO THE LONGS. BUY LOW; THEN BUY LOWER.
Picture or in this case video says a thousand words. As you know I often use analogies. Watching that video is comparable to having a blind date, seeing her as incredibly sexy at first sight, Then becoming more and more intrigued as the evening goes on. You wouldn't happen to know a date on that would you. I know what they were recently at a presentation with each other, within the last month or maybe two I don't know I look at so much. Obviously I'm reposting in case somebody missed your message. Thanks to maximiliano
https://share.vidyard.com/watch/kMWqPWVHG4B9spc3KLfHng?utm_content=283912612&utm_medium=social&utm_source=linkedin&hss_channel=lcp-163910
Damned mosquitos. Incessant buzzing
That is impressive. The stock manipulation in the past two days is impressive also. I must have missed the news that cold fusion is back and we have inexhaustible power available for a billion years. 😂
89 cents. But how can this be with all the fantastic news that has absolutely nothing to do with FCEL? Hogwash the paid promoter even bought more and the volume is great how can this be? Everyone is buying and the stock is below 90 cents how can this be? The company is doing great and Biden is giving out billions and the stock is below 90 cents how can this be? Everyone knows this company is great and the price is down how can this be? Even Tesla lost money and look at them now ho can this be? Great job Hopestud and Mojo you are the ones who have been right about this stock and it's time to take some Hogs out to the cleaners for a wash. Keep tanking baby!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
How many times must you say the same thing ? And you do it in such a timely fashion. JUST BEFORE IT DROPS.
Look like my $.75 target is coming . $50 Isn't out of the question.
Keep buying those drops. Soon FCEL will be giving you the shares free.
Listen to Hogwash. He's the one with all that information that'll sooths the discomfort. The man has been spot on from the time he said it was going to $100 after it hit $29.30 3 years ago. LMAO
i thought the main hydrogen production discussions were with NuScale Energy for use with Nuclear reactors very promising except the US doesn't seem to want to have nuclear unlike the rest of the world.
Not seen anything with Exxon for producing hydrogen nor Shell for that matter - they like to create blue hydrogen and may use CCS from FCEL but not to produce the hydrogen itself. very different solutions.
She'll and Exxonmobil. And now anyone we want to. And yes, more efficient with hydrogen production, but not a TRI product, which is very valuable, particularly in California.
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