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beats me...but they have Dr Kumar who is ramrodding the trials and he sees fit to do it this way...and the results of how hes making it happen, so far, are freakin great...so i really dont care what dfs thinks about it...i like the results...and im willing to let Dr Kumar do his thing...
"Todays price is below total of cash on hand"
they have that cash on hand due to dilution...and they are able to keep that cash on hand because of dilution...Fcel was hoping for the Gov to send them welfare checks to keep them from having to dilute...but the Gov has not yet felt the desire to do so...Fcel hoped that Exxon would bail them out with a fat contract...but year after year all fcel gets is an extension and a public pat on the rump after which Exxon tells them to run along now...if you are wondering why the pps is so low, you might want to think about these things...
"My take on the "dilution" is that the same institutional buyers and savvy longs that follow this company are buying."
well someone is sure buying...and they have since 20 bucks a share...all the way down...im not sure exactly what is "savvy" about continuing to buy shares that do nothing but continually drop and drop and drop...
" In other words " a gift""
a stock that keeps hitting new yearly lows day after day is not a "gift"...not of you keep buying it as it keeps dropping...i asked you the last time you bought this "gift" why you are buying it instead of just waiting for it to stop dropping and reverse the trend?...i have made a lot of money trading this stock...but i dont just blindly buy the...im not interested in losing money every single time i buy it...i dont care if one day it eventually comes back to take me to breakeven...many will tell you that patience is the key to making money in fcel...but its not buying the stock all over the place and then waiting for it to come back up that is the patience you should be exercising...patience should be exercised BEFORE you buy...not AFTER...
"Any doom and gloom you put out there now is humorous."
im talking about the pps...the business or rather lack of it...dilution...the buying and selling...these are things you can see...if it sounds like im talking about "gloom and doom" then maybe you should think about why it looks that way...even to you...
29 mil buys...17 mil sells...pps drops 8%...
i smell dilution...
pps wanted to recover but was dragged back down by dilution...imo
plenty of buyers...but they were buying new shares being dumped by fcel...had little positive impact on pps...imo
" I think the "potential" for FCEL is greater than ever."
oh yea...sure...i mean just look at how far it has dropped over the last few years or even the last few months...hitting new yearly lows almost every day...and after being in business for 50 years, investors STILL can only point to the "potential"...lol
"It is exciting to follow this stock."
if you get excited by watching every purchase you make drop by double digit percentage points for days after you bought it, then yea, its a blast!...
LMAO!
About you being dead wrong…time after time after time…
“King James 1
Re: Hoghead7 post# 58975
Thursday, 04/04/2024 3:55:18 PM
Hog, I added more at 1.10 last week. I feel confident monetary policy easing will boost the market mid year. Shorts are being pretty risky. When the music stops and there are no shares to buy the covering frenzy will be quite a sight.”
Everything in your post is dead wrong
“I’m sure most producers are capable of raising disease free colonies.”
You are wrong
It’s just Japan trying to do what they can to help a floundering Japanese company that many Japanese have invested way too much money in…
Spiber did a small release at some fashion show and followed up with a “pop up” store in Paris a while back…apparently it didn’t go so well…now they are going to do a pop up cubicle within a popular Japanese store where they will sell a few dress shirts and jeans…
Spiber’s investors are desperately trying to get some of their money back…last week they did more funding for $65 mil dollars…to sell a handful of shirts…lol
Smh…what a money pit….
“ We ran to $0.50 before with hopes of production as the carrot.”
That was 2019…this now…it’s different now…the production didn’t happen…we later had hopes again and, again it didn’t happen…as I keep saying, you can’t try to relate what happened years ago and use that as a basis for today…doesn’t work with con’s and doesn’t work for pro’s either…
We are now imo, for the first real time, actually, seriously, poised to mass produce consistently…and we have had excellent pr’s showing actual product produced that confirmed a our production process and that Vietnam is on board…
And the results of all that is 8 cents a share…
Being able to produce a product is a huge step forward…imo, good for about 20 cents….being able to create something with that product and sell it, profitably, will be worth much more…that will bring MANY investors here to buy shares and drive the pps higher…
And I’ll add that the real carrot wasn’t the possibility of production…it was the announcement of Polartec as well as a few other things…
Sure…if you are in a hurry, those things would help…but it’s all gonna happen anyway without any extra help…
The big key is reaching the point where Kblb can say that they are at the point where they can produce tonnage consistently and have the infrastructure and support needed to grow far beyond that…
The news of tonnage, imo, wont even get the pps to .50….
It will take the launch of spydasilk and advertising and marketing to do that…
If we don’t get the recognition, it will take sales and revenue in a 10Q…
Or we can sign a contract with a big name company…
If Kim put out a pr today saying we are at tonnage, I’d be surprised if the pps hit .20
No one said much about the Dow or Nasdaq because this is the fcel board…why would anyone be talking about them unless what they are doing pertains to fcel…
I notice you didn’t even mention fcel in your post because you know damn well that hopester did speak to the charts of fcel and he did state what was likely to occur and what he stated did in FACT happen…
But instead of addressing what WAS stated, you chose to address what wasn’t stated???…lol
The fact is, if you or anyone else had paid attention to what Hopester has been saying for quite some time, you would be FAR better off…I know you don’t like that but it is still true…
You need to stop thinking of stocks like they are your favorite football team…cheer them on win or lose?…that’s how you lose money…
"i thought the main hydrogen production discussions were with NuScale Energy for use with Nuclear reactors very promising except the US doesn't seem to want to have nuclear unlike the rest of the world."
hedgehog will ignore your post because he doesnt want to inform anyone that the Nuscale/Fcel deal went up in smoke...Nuscale was going to build a huge facility and use fcel but it aint getting built after all...
"Screw it, Just bought 500 shares pre-market with bill money."
you are not going to make your Yugo payment so that you could buy $500 worth of fcel?...so that you could profit about 50 bucks if it goes up 10%?...
yikes!...things are getting desperate in hogwash land...
"Yeah I definitely know we are GOING UP too much attention now as that Huge buys yesterday with 4 times the normal volume is a CLEAR SIGNAL"
huh....maybe that signal really wasnt so clear...
"you know when Shorts can’t do much down pressure with this huge volume"
and yet, the pps is down again...yet another multi year low...
at some point you are just going to have to realize this isnt shorts or manipulation...its a whole lot of things...its big players dumping and getting out or reducing...and/or its fcel dumping shares...its fcel's poor performance...its fcel losing money while spending huge amounts of money trying to keep the doors open...its the economy looking shaky again...theres no gov welfare checks in the mail that were supposed to have been recieved YEARS ago...Exxon said no to a new contract but insists on stringing fcel along...etc etc
“ Nothing I am going to say will impact the entrenched misunderstandings of a number of posters here who disagree with the truth.”
Wow…what a crock…LMAO!…
Rayo just put a dunce cap on you then schooled you….then he took you behind the woodshed and paddled your behind like an unruly child…
Now you are coming here with tears in your eyes claiming we just don’t understand….
You are freaking HILARIOUS!…
explosions going off in Iran and Middle East due to Israeli retaliatory strikes...futures market down big...
you might want to rethink that loading up the truck nonsense...
“I am glad for the dip to collect more shares”
Lol…
This will be good for a trade soon enough…but I sure as hell aint buying shares just to watch the pps continue to drop and just hope it turns around soon…lol…I think I’ll wait to actually SEE a reason to buy….that way I won’t have to embarrass myself by saying “no, really, I’m glad the stock keeps dropping every time I buy it”…
Can someone interpret dime’s post for me…he’s all over the place…
It reads more like a tantrum…
LMAO!....muskrat love....
"Big seller and big buyer only 6% less down on big volume"
you mean TODAY...but 8 trading days ago, the pps was 1.25...thats a 25% loss...from a pps that was already devastated...
nice try...but you aint fooling anyone...
"The lack of anything but good news is impressive and shows we are just following a drift in the market"
the market isnt drifting...fcel is drifting all by itself for its own reasons...
"The jockeying for position here is incredible."
smh...lol
"I picked up cheap shares today and will again tomorrow."
you do realize that you just keep buying shares that keep getting cheaper and cheaper...
"Over 300,000,000 mil cash"
that will shrink very quickly considering how much it costs to pay 600 workers who, as far as i can tell, aint doing much of anything...and more than half those workers were all hired in the last few years becaus efcele was going to grow their business like gangbusters...
only it hasnt happened...
"(how much value in patents?) plant, equipment, work in progress, goodwill"
zero...the only way you can access any value in any of those things is if you liquidate or get bought...when you are drowning in costs and losses, theres really no point in trying to find value in things that you cant use for cash...
“ Maybe I have been doing it backwards”
You sure as hell doing something wrong…lol
.0936….OUCH!
Reminds me of Abbot and Costello….who’s on first…
You guys are a riot!…
Looks like an old article that was updated to now include the Chinese as being involved in body armor….
“institutional holders are still holding.”
Lmao…are you sure about that?…19 mil shares traded in 90 minutes…fcel hitting multi year lows…SOMEONE is sure as hell selling a buttload of shares…who has that many shares to sell…except institutions and fcel itself?…
You must be in heaven buying all those cheap shares…smh
“great buy for anyone paying attention.”
Been hearing that everyday as the stock dropped from 25 bucks per share to below a buck…
“feebleness of your unsubstantiated claims”
Unsubstantiated claims???….what is happening is EXACTLY what he said would happen!…how in the hell is that unsubstantiated…
What’s unsubstantiated is the claim, every day, that fcel is a good buy no matter what the hell is happening…
"I am loving buying at 1.00$"
oh yea...good times!....lmao
have at it...there are as many shares at a buck as you could possibly want...
just keep whistling past the graveyard...
What a childish question…
Ah STFU you imbecile….
" I think if this touches below $1, it will bounce at least 10% within 1 - 2 days."
well of course...doesnt cost anything to say that...
i recall you saying the same thing at $20, and all the way down...10% was significant at that pps...saying the pps will bounce 10% from a buck doesnt really make a whole lot of difference...especially when pretty much everyone who owns this stock has a much higher average pps...
but hey...the good news is that if the stock drops to a dime, not only can you say you are happy cause you can buy cheap shares but you can once again predict that it will pop 10%...for whatever good that does anyone...
"Another day where someone is dumping shares. Is that you Douchebag?"
i doubt it...bob mullet doesnt own any shares...
"That is to say, Vietnam could already get mundane silkworms with the same capabilities as BAM-1."
you are saying that vietnam sericuture has not had to deal with any diseases?...they have been at ZERO as far as diseases?...
sorry, but that is utterly ridiculous...
you are trying very hard to "read between the lines" and are simply making up negative BS....
you have it all backwards...
Where’s hedgehog?…fcel has had decent volume the last few days and the pps has dropped to a buck…according to him, the pps should only rise with good volume…so what’s going on?…lol
Hedgehog….we need you to scour articles about hydrogen, fuel cells and anything else you can find and post them here as if they are meaningful…
Surely there is a fuel cell company that is powering a daycare in Outer Mongolia or something?…
Maybe a ceo who knew how to run a business would be better…
"Sorry you got confused by the various vague and misleading claims put out by me"
not to worry...ill straighten you out...heres a quote from the pr that you apparently chose to ignore:
"Following health screenings and daily monitoring of the colony, the Company can now report that this is currently the strongest and healthiest batch of silkworms it has ever produced in Southeast Asia."
i mean, GDAM!...how much plainer can kim make it for you???...its at the level that a 3rd grader could understand...SO FAR SO GOOD!...
why do you keep looking backwards to the past trying to manufacture some sort of problem that wasnt expressed?...
“ It indicates an unknown outcome. ”
What is it about the pr that sounds like the “unknown” could be a bad thing?…what is it that is “unknown”???…
The worms have been produced…they are thriving…zero disease which is, as far as I know, unheard of…
Once you have worms that are robust and thriving, what’s left?…they may not know how to cocoon??…the workers will forget how to do their jobs?…
We already created 25 kilos that was described as a test run for the production process…the results were an excellent batch of DS…
But for some reason this trialing will take to the end of the year?…
Smh
“It seems likely that some adjustments or tweaking will be needed which could delay mass production into next year.”
Lol…what was it in the pr that lead you to this conclusion?…
It’s just a wag…no one really knows…I guess Kim would have the most info to give the best guess, but he really doesn’t know either…
My guess is based on many things happening and being announced by then, and having Kblb marketed to the public with a significant increase in volume and in investors…it’s not just based on mass production occurring…
“ You still feel this can hit a dollar by the end of this year ?”
No…by the end of June…
“There’s too much investment capital out there probably willing to go all in on spidersilk as long as they establish production and sales revenue.”
Investment capital won’t accomplish what a r/s can…
Spiber had hundreds of millions of venture capital long before they had produced anything…
"This is the only reason Kim has all those voting shares."
well that and a possible reverse split with a move over to nasdaq coinciding with a good amount of dilution...and maybe doing some deals that some may not like or with entities spome may not like...
i dont know how India does business, but they may prefer a situation where the ceo / founder has full control and really cant be contested...especially if they are going to invest money or do the buyout...
something like that might light a fire under the US gov or military's butt...they would need to get off their ass and start making things happen or lose out...
how about in the case of a buyout, a bidding war starts between dupont and India's Tata..
theres all kinds of possibilities that could come up that would require swift moves and approvals....at least on the OTC...on nasdaq, it'll be much harder...actual shareholder meetings will be required as well as a BOD...he can have all the shares and votes that he wants, but it will be harder for him to have his way...
im not opposed to a r/s as long as we are at one buck or more and it means a move over to nasdaq...nor would i be against a reasonable amount of dilution at that time...
if we are on nasdaq at 10 bucks a share, mass producing, selling product, generating revenue, being marketed and becoming known, then the r/s and dilution would be offset by the increased investments from institutions and large investors....
yea i know im all over the place, but i see all these things as possibilities...many of them are probabilities...and while they present certain problems, they are good problems to have to deal with...
Some here want to point out that a $1 pps means a market cap of $1 bil and they are afraid that market cap isn’t justifiable…
If people want shares, they will have to pay for them…when a market cap of $500 mil is justifiable, the market cap could already be well past $10 bil….
I thought nvda was priced high at $70 per share…then AI became all the rage and in no time it was $975 per share…
And many will tell you it’s still cheap compared to where it’s headed…
Go figure