Sure, I would like to know, but we both know that these things take time. The company filed a S-1 A at the end on August so maybe their S-1 will become effective soon, maybe it won't I don't know. As I stated before I'm a trader, trading in and out here, so unless the company gives me reason to I stay here long term it doesn't really matter to me either way.

I also know that there is often a direct relationship between risk and opportunity, so I have no problem owning shares here, despite knowing that the company doesn't have a half a trillion dollars of gold, because I believe that one bizarre tweet, has triggered an over reaction of selling.

I don't believe that all of the company's projects are fake, or that it's claims about a new evirionmentally frienldly mining technology are impossible. I've read about the use cyanobacteria to extract precious metals from soil, as is described in the scientific paper linked below:
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://phycology.sbu.ac.ir/article_99220_a983ca4184ae875592019e0f1d7645e4.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwjWiJem9fmCAxX_D1kFHekvCxEQFnoECA4QBg&usg=AOvVaw10VEtDhos2A_LBhMHiWune

The use of processes such as bioleaching (described in the linked article) would both make their claims possible, and make use of equipment similar to what they depict on their website. Since, I don't have enough evidence to claim with any certainty that the company has actually developed a commercially viable technology using such cutting edge techniques I don't make claims that they have. Similarly, I don't think that you have evidence that it hasn't. Everything that either one of us can say about the company's claimed technological break throughs is just speculation.

Finally, there's the company's AI English project, that was developed by a company that has already developed translation software for some Asian languages into English as shown in the videos below:

I don't know of any reason that I should assume that there will be no market for this software. The company says it will launch on the 18th of this month.

With all due respect you should ask the company about the S-1 filing, not traders.

Star continues to upgrade the company profile by filing an 8-A which registers our shares. The company becomes a 1934 act reporting company. $STAL

— Star Alliance International Corp (OTC:STAL) (@StarAllianceIn1) December 5, 2023

https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1614556/000168316823008628/staralliance_8a12g.htm

Yeah, that seems about right.

Trade wise this is probably the worst time to sell. Sell volume is drying up, and with funding and AI language news promised for the next few days I think we should see at least a partial recovery in pps.

I wonder if there was a note holder who dumped, because that is how its been trading. I guess we will see when the company next updates their share structure on OTC Markets if any of the restricted share were dumped into the open market during the past few days.

Exactly, and 26,000,000 shares traded in the first few minutes of trading today.

STAL just covered the gap at .0062, I think the high .0050s is the floor for the current downtrend.

That is simply a stock image of a bioreactor. If the company has actually discovered an environmentally friendly method of extracting metals from rocks, it's possible that it might utilize either bacteria or enzymes do it. If that is the case then they would have to use a bioreactor similar to the one shown on their website to do the extraction
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Others have used bioreactors for similar purposes, for example here's an old paper taken from the scientific journal Nature that describes a technique that uses bacteria to extract pure metals from electronic waste:



https://www.nature.com/articles/srep13481

Notice that using bacteria in metal extraction is much more environmentally friendly than traditional methods, so if this Genesis technology actually works, it very well might use a bioreactor of some sort. I don't think that the description on the company's website is detailed enough for us to understand how their proposed process would work, if it truly scalable etc. But if does everything that the company claims it does, there's no reason to assume that it couldn't use a bioreactor.

No it is a stock image. I also did a Google image search and found 21 results for that same image. Here are a few of those results:

As you can see many companies, universities etc. have made use of that same stock image on their websites to illustrate various scientific, or commercial chemical processes. While I think that it wouldl greatly help the company's credibility to provide photos of the actual equipment involved in their process, I think that there is no factual basis to claim that the use stock photography, in and of itself, is evidence of fraud, because it simply isn't.

We have been invited to and will be attended the NREL Rail Stake Holder Engagement Workshop focused on the US National Blueprint for decarbonization. This event is sponsored by the US DOE. We are honored to attend and share our progress and thoughts on the future of rail $GEGI pic.twitter.com/eD1nfD3NCV

— Genesis Electronics Group, Inc. (@GenesisElectro4) July 7, 2023

Everyone takes profits. Smart traders take profits while the stock price is rising which is not what we are seeing now. What we are seeing now is large traders and flipper groups, boxing in the price and using ask blocks to work the pps down, and trying scare the not so smart traders who are being spooked into selling at artificially low prices created by those traders, so they can load.

Flipper groups working overtime these last two days, trying to make sure the there are no gaps. Let's see if they let it trade once the "gap" is filled.

It all those flippers who didn't buy on Friday because thought that the pps was going down to the high teens low twenties last week. Now since that didn't happen, they are trying to force the price back to where they could have easily bought as many shares as they wanted to on Friday.

Gaps do form organically too...

Maybe we can do the math together. There are 31 days in May and the order staying the case was made on Wednesday May 3rd. So 31 days brought us to June 3rd. And 14 Days brings us to Saturday June 17th which is a weekend which brings us to Monday the 19th. So you're right about my math error, the deadline is Saturday not Sunday, but since the court is closed both days it's still 12 days or less, could be today for all we know.

There has been so much talk arguing about whether or not we will hear something about a settlement today, which to my thinking is completely irrelevant to the big picture of what was announced last month by the court. To me these are the important points to consider:

1. Today is Wednesday, June 14th which is the 42nd day of 45 day stay given to Amazon and VPLM to settle the case.

2. What this actually means is that we will absolutely get a status update between today and Monday, June 26, 2023. So if we get a status update today great but if we don't it doesn't mean anything is amiss, because we will absolutely hear something in the next 12 days. Because here is what the court actually said:

That 45 day period will absolutely end on Sunday when the courts are closed, so it's actually very likely that we will hear something between today and Monday. So why argue about today when there are 4 days including today for a settlement agreement within the 45 day period? If we don't hear any we will absolutely hear something between this coming Tuesday and the following Monday because this is what the court filing said:



So we are absolutely getting a settlement update very, very, very soon, 12 days or less. All the best.

Yep, and as soon as the CEO announced the buy someone dumped about 8 million shares. As I have said before this current downtrend looks completely artificial, and is textbook example of share price manipulation by one or more large shareholder(s).

That's fine, I think charting trends is useful too. That said, 50% which is not a real Fibonacci number is as good a number to use as an inflection point for a trade, as any real Fibonacci number for predicting markets. Which is to say that as a tool Fibonacci numbers have been shown to no more predictive of stock market trends than random chance, as is explained in this link.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0957417421012495

However If you look at the tape it's obvious that someone is manipulating the price, to what end I don't know, I guess we will all have to wait and see.

So let's imagine that someone let's call him Trader X was frustrated that the price had stagnated in the .003s. He then decides to artificially push down the price in two days to .003 from .0038, and then he stops, if the price rebounds to .0038-.004 is due to a Fibonacci retracement? No, the price at .0038 would have likely muddled it's way to .004 anyway without his manipulation. All that Trader X really did was create fear uncertainty and doubt which is likely to kill buying pressure, the same buying pressure we need to get to >004 and beyond. I think that if our own Trader X decides to stop spoofing the Ask and crashing Bids at this point, the price will recover, if you want to credit Fibonacci I don't have a problem with that, so long as the price rises.

I don't see that, a see a large holder or two using 5 million share blocks to try to cause panic selling with the occasional sell or two and lot's of spoofing. One second CDEL is there with a 5 million share block the next second it's gone, only to come back and crash through a bid that started to build at .003. This is being done methodically to artificially push down the ask and train traders to bid lower.

It is also obvious that this isn't causing a real panic so I don't think a 50% retracement is going to happen, but it has killed buying volume so anything is possible. It's just textbook stock manipulation by someone, though I don't claim to know who.

It's not as if flipper's don't believe in charts too. Look at the tape for today as an example. To me it looks like some flipper(s) saw that the closing price was going to be $.0034 as of 3:58 today, and then sold a few shares at 3:59.01 pm to close paint the share price down as low as they could, because they didn't want their full day of stock manipulation to cause the pos to fall only one tic. So I wouldn't see a last minute paint job by some random retail flipper(s) as validation of negative forecasts for this company.

The bigger story is the absolute lack of dilution which we can see by comparing todays share structure updated to one from earlier this month:




Most OTC flipper price manipulation strategies rely on dilution or at least the plausible speculation of dilution to work at theses price levels. This is because without dilution artificially lowering the value of the shares each trader owns, it is very hard to keep active companies with operations and revenue below 1 cent. The only way to do that short term are for flippers to resort to games such as spoofing the ask with large share blocks, selling shares from one account to another to lower the price, and end of the day last minute paint jobs like we all saw today. I predict that such games will have diminishing returns going forward, because the longer we stay here in the .003s the less flippers we will have with who are still profitable selling at the current price range. So even w/o news the price should naturally rise, and I wouldn't bet on the lack of good news going into the summer.

The Docket automatically gets updated everyday, even if there are no new updates, but I don't see any new messages for any of the cases that I am tracking. Do you see an update message for a case? If you do, which one?

I agree that the company should address this, especially since it is obviously hurting the share price.

Looking at the Form 4s, in reality she has sold less shares this month than she sold in any other month this year so far , and she has sold shares every month of this year. So it wasn't the fact that she sold millions of shares less this month, than last month, that caused some investors to panic that doesn't make any sense.

If anything the fact that she has filed over 20 Form 4s in the last week created too much information for most of us to go through all at once, and it was that temporary lack of understanding of the filings that allowed allowed some savvy trader to create of this social media rumor of a massive share dump all at once. It actually just looks like the company had fallen behind in filing their insider transactions, and filed a couple dozen filings to catch up.

I agreed with your assessment when all that we had was that single line from the Form 144 and no Form 4s for for 2023. However, I am interested in following the evidence, which we now have in multiple Form 4s that show she what she sold, when she sold it, and at what price. So looking at all of the available evidence, not just the date of the most recent sale listed on the Form 144, I have to reject the story that the CEO's wife dumped 13 million shares last week, because based on the evidence that is now available it simply didn't happen. Let's look at the line in the context of the document again. Here is an image of that section of the Form 144:


Did she list all of of the transactions she made in the previous three months? Well let's see below we have two Form 4 documents that show her transactions made during the months of April and May:





I'm sure that we can both agree that this month up to now, and last month would be included in the last three months, and yet she didn't write a list of dates such as 5/18,5/17, 4/28 etc. Instead she only listed the most recent date of sales as prior to 5/19/23. So it is obvious that while she listed the total amount of shares sold during the past three months, that she did not break it down into individual sales, or dates because we have evidence that there were multiple sales on multiple dates. So I see no reason to ignore all of the available evidence from the Form 4s, and focus on one date for which we have only 588,889 shares sold according to the available Form 4.


This point does not apply since we actually do have a Form 4 for the date in question.



This is true, that is why I took the time to make sure that I am making decisions based on facts, not fear. I have also posted the facts for all to see. As you mentioned in your response you are entitled your own opinion and investment decisions, all I did in my posts was to present factual information from the Form 4 filings that provide evidence that the CEO's wife simply did not sell 13 million shares on 5/18/23.



I never insulted you, however you did condescendingly refer to me as a random account, not that I care. All I care about are the facts. All the best.

So are we to imagine that the only day that she sold shares in the three months leading up to the 19th was the previous day? Because that is what needs to be be true for what you are saying to be correct. The form clear says to list all shares sold during the last 3 months. So if she sold 13 million shares in past three months, as claimed on the form, and also sold all of those 13 million shares on the previous day, it would mean that she could not have sold any of those millions of shares disclosed as being sold by her in the other Form 4s that cover February, March and April. Since that obviously is not true, neither is this narrative that she dumped 13 million shares in one day, that you seem to have accepted.

I think we should all believe the Form 4s over speculation by me, you, or any other poster. So looking at the Form 4 from yesterday it says that she sold less than 600 thousand shares on the 18th of May. We simply don't have ave evidence to support this one day dump story.

After looking at both the form 144 and yesterdays Form 4, I retract my previous agreement that 13 million shares were dumped by Barbara Baggio on 5/18/23 this did not happen instead she sold around around 13 millions share between 2/18 and 5/18/2023.

According to the most recent Form 4 she sold 588,895 shares 5/18/23 and 700,000 shares on 5/19/23. However if we go back to February its clear that between February 18th and May 18th she definitely sold well over ten million shares. So let's look at that From 144 again, here is what it says:

Notice that the question didn't ask about the most recent sale but the last 3 months, so the most logical understanding of the response given by Barbara is that she was answering the actual question about the last three months, and that the date given of 5/18/23 was only the date of the most recent sale.

Math also helps us to rule out this story that there was a single day dump. According to the Form 144 a total of 13,136,665 shares where sold for gross proceeds of $652.520. So it's a simple thing to divide $652,520 by 13,136,665 share giving us an average selling price of about $0.0497 per share. Do you remember millions of shares being sold below 5 cents on the 18th?

No because it didn't happen, it looks much more like a few clever but dishonest traders used a very real sale on the 18th of not even 600 thousand shares by the CEO's wife, combined with the confusion cause by the company filing 15 Forms related to insider transactions over the past few years in a single day, to create and spread seemingly plausible FUD about the CEO and his wife bailing right before settlements, to lower the price, and it has worked remarkably well.

What are the chances that there really weren't 13 million shares sold last week by insiders? I think they actually pretty good. This is an image of the Form 4 filed yesterday that shows the actual sells made by Baraba Baggio this past week:



Does anyone see 13,000,0000 shares sold? I surely don't, I see 1,288,895 shares sold between the 17th and the 18th. I think that Form 144 that got so many people worked up may have been saying that Barbara had sold 13 million shares in the three months leading up to 5/18/23, since there are too many sales to list in the space provided on that form, the form only lists the one date.

When we look at the other Form 4s that the company filed, what I have written above seems much more consistent with the evidence taken from the Form 4s, than the idea that 13,000,000 shares were all dumped in a single day, but for some unknown reason the actual Form 4 only two transactions totaling 588,895 shares are actually listed.

There's no dilution:



Yesterday:

First of all I am no more of a random account than you are. The newest Form 144 says that 13,136,665 share were sold on the 18th. Since it is a crime for her to deliberately make false statements on this form I am willing to take this form as evidence that she sold. Now, if you look on the same SEC Edgar website it is equally obvious that her most recent sell isn't listed on any Form 4. So it's likely that we will see a new Form 4 confirming her most recent sell(s) early next week.

If you click on on any of the form 4s posted today, you can see that they refer to shares gifted to / sold by Barbara Baggio over the years. If you touch her name in the document you can isolate her filing bringing you to a page that looks like this:



If you click on the first filing that you come to you will see that her last sale of shares was last September as you can see in the image below:


You can also see that she has filed Form 144 three times this year expressing her intention to sell as shown below:


What I'm taking from this is that it's possible, that she will not be able to sell this time as well, but in any event she has not sold anything yet.

Ok, that's an autocorrect typo.

https://www.otcmarkets.com/stock/HIRU/news/Share-Buy-Back-Program?id=401234

It was definitely announced on OTCmarkets website, that is a positive, in same way that the lack of daily or at least weekly updates on OTC markets is a negative.

Many tickers update their share structure everyday...

The lack of OTC verification of the buyout isn't helping at all.

The company just verified their profile. This morning it was last verified in April, but now it is May.
https://www.otcmarkets.com/stock/HIRU/security

Maybe, just maybe, the company is about to update their share structure as well...

Yeah I think she should let the TA give us daily updates and only tweet once a week as promised.

Probably right, but once the OS starts to shrink as soon as tonight based her earlier tweet we should see a boost in traders confidence.

First 1,500,000 million shares bought back to return to treasury is complete will update tomorrow and will tweet a weekly total and monthly total. $HIRU

— @Hirucorp (@Hirucorpnew) May 17, 2023