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Wow, this is complete garbage, concocted by some hho nuts at another site. Here is the original report: http://www.hho2u.com/uploads/Guidelines-H2-Fuel-in-CMVs-Nov2007_1_.pdf
It contains nothing regarding hho injection. The report pertains to the use of already created, stored gaseous hydrogen. It has no relevance to HLNT's technology whatsoever, and any attempt to claim such is fraud.
Haven't been around in a while, but after coming back and looking at recent press releases, it's hard to envision HLNT as being other than a scam. If Mark Zuckerberg can become a billionaire in a couple of years you're telling me what should be an absolute revolution in green technology can't network into national prominence after two years of hard work? I search, as I have many times before, for "wildcat hydrogen booster" on google. It yields almost no comments on the technology, in the entire internet, that aren't published by someone with an immediate pecuniary interest in the company. There is a flood of press releases, info from local dealers, shareholder cheerleading, etc.., but nobody else seems to be interested in the technology at all. Why is that?
Stuff like this should be deleted, really. It doesn't have anything to do with our tech...
I completely agree Niko, but that is why I'm confused by the defensive attitude of some of the other posters. This forum is here for honest discussion, not to influence the share price (whether by bashing or cheerleading). What is it that makes some of the large shareholders here attack every attempt at an honest inquiry?
What are you babbling about? The only infusion of cash I want is long profits from a big increase in the price of HLNT.
If you really think that the fundamental character of the people of a firm and the general tendencies of the type of firm are not relevant to understanding how a particular firm is likely to behave, then I guess we have nothing else to talk about.
I'm not arguing with that, but you're arguing that HLNT is part of the 1%, and there is quite a bit of burden on that argument.
I mean I get the fact that y'all have a big stake in HLNT. Really, if we can just drop the petty arguing, I'm ready to have a rational discussion and hopefully jump back on board. I'm sure a lot of other investors out there are waiting for such a rational discussion in order to jump on board, but are discouraged by the fanaticism here.
Why don't you just go to a casino then? By your logic, the odds are equivalent.
? I'm saying that there pink sheet companies without some of the outright negatives posed by HLNT. How is that hard to understand?
Aren't you wasting your time trading in the stock market, then? Anyways, you left out the key word "necessarily," that is, past performance is not necessarily indicative of future results. This is quite true, obviously. And furthermore, on the reverse, past malperformance indeed usually is indicative of future lack of results. The former statement is true because it takes a lot to make things go right; the latter is true because it takes little for things to go wrong.
What? Not all pink sheet executives are convicted felons. Not all of them have over a decade long history of scam operations (shoddy and failing business practices if not always outright fraud). Not all pink sheet companies are in a business whose tech is considered pseudoscience by many mainstream practitioners because of constant scams dating back as far as the 70s.
Well, I disagree, lol. Human nature has fairly consistent tendencies. Isn't that a pretty obtuse statement for an investor to make? Don't you use technical analysis? Don't you analyze past balance sheets?
And by the way, if I had a zero percent chance of predicting the future based upon past events, that would imply a strong predictive power of my methodology (albeit a negative one). Given one of three options of equal probability, a completely ineffective predictive methodology should yield a success rate of 1/3, for example.
I tend to think that when your money is on the line you don't give people the benefit of the doubt. Mel's history + a business model that is full of scams = ample reason for skepticism. Not that I don't think that the technology is good or that there are a lot of good people over there at Highline; that just isn't enough to secure the future of the company.
Btw Senator, if you want me to respond to your childish insults, you'll have to send me an email address. I can't reply to PMs. In any case, yes, I owned shares from July 2010 to Feb 2011, and periodically since then, including during the time in which I contacted the company.
No, but past action is the best indication we have of future action. I've tried getting in contact with Highline over this matter, but they've not been responsive to my enquiries. More than anything else, this issue has sent me over the edge; the documentation is pretty clear cut and I'm open to Mel's side of the story, but were getting stonewalled.
The new website is about a month overdue...it's about time for that to get online. I imagine they'll have to sell another few tens of millions of shares just to pay for the website design.
Why don't you ask NIR and Humphries? They're the ones who screwed up the accounting in the first place.
I think it's quite obvious, hugh. If a "due from sale of asset" remains constant over the balance sheet, obviously, the asset has not yet been paid for. Did you even read the recent court case? This asset is what was due to HLNT in exchange for the convertible debt issued to NIR.
Looking at the volume for that price range, that theory is impossible. Don't give those guys at NIR too much credit, now.
I don't think Chad and co are really asking anything from investors at all right now, so I'm not sure if they are too concerned. Remember, other than the small share sell a couple months ago, this company has completely relied upon current cash flow for operations since March 2010; additional capitalization is not necessary at this point in time. The directors are all shareholders, but their shares are restricted anyways. In light of this, what incentive does the company have to maintain short-term share value? Right now, 100% of effort is going into the company's operations, and that is going to result in the greatest gain in term of long-term share value.
That company has been long destroyed by NIR share conversion, by the looks of it.
Got out a few days ago @ .0057, back in now @ .0038. Wow, don't know how I got em that cheap...
Chart (candlestick) right now could be setting up for a hammer, watch for the reversal, it could be strong. Btw, the last time that formation occured, this stock shot up 25% the next day.
The "water4gas" projects are clearly scams; hydrogen-enhanced combustion ala HLNT is not. In that thread you posted, several posters conceded that fact. There is scientific literature to back the latter. I think HLNT may need to do a more thorough job in seperating itself from all of the fringe lunatic proponents of water4gas, as many will be skeptical. But, the proof will be in the results, I suppose.
An early peek was online for a brief period, at hightechinnov.com. It looked much, much improved. Now it redirects to the old website. I guess they keep well enough tabs on the board to have discovered that the new website had been found, and as it is unfinished, promptly took it down.
Interesting you should mention that, nikodemos. I sent an email out to highline friday on the very subject of the third jv; hopefully I'll get a response tomorrow.
New website coming together well!
http://www.hightechinnov.com/
Didn't take much to bring it down, that's for sure. It wouldn't take much at all to get back up to a penny. That may be a key resistance point, though; probably news is needed to get back over a penny.
Hmm...corporate update on Aug 10, LOI with Dong Feng on Aug 25. corporate update on Oct. 15, financials released on Oct. 26. Corporate update on December 8 means...?
Even if there was a pump, then there wasn't really any "dump," at least not on behalf of the management. The float has maintained at a consistent level throughout the past several months, and if the management were to cash in on any of the gains, the float would reflect the conversion of their preferred stock into the common stock. This simple fact should reassure all investors that the best is yet to come.
Hmm, I was under the impression that the utility of hydrogen in the ICE had nothing to do with its own combustion with oxygen (which would seem to violate the laws of thermodynamics, as the energy for combustion ultimately is derived from the alternator, and hence the engine) but its role as a catalyst in the combustion of the existing hydrocarbons.
It is quite amusing that our discussion has degenerated to attacks ad hominem. It is even more amusing that they are directed against a man in a case of mistaken identity. P. D. C. are my initials, and I certainly would be eager to scan a copy of my shareholder letter to prove myself if anyone desires such.
Really, y'all have got to this y'alls act together if you hope to convince neutral, smart investors to undertake a long position in this stock. This paranoia and xenophobia has got to stop. I am pleading with you all.
Wow, I didn't anticipate such a negative response. Fellas, frankly I could have been quite a bit more negative than I was in my previous post. I choose not to reveal everything because I hold a substantial position in HLNT; this is an asset that is very dear to me. I'm really hoping we can sort some stuff out without having to drag dirt onto the board and provoke a panic among the flippers. In fact I would much rather have a private conversation, if anyone would acquiesce (but I don't have ihub private message).
There's really only two obstacles to this taking off right now, IMO:
1) proving the credibility of the management - I think some good work needs to be done, in communication with the company, in cleaning the reputation of our management and especially ascertaining the preferred share structure right now.
2) proving the credibility of the technology - HHO scams are a dime a dozen. Even more unfortunately, I see many of our posters here use the same arguments to defend our technology as the scammers use. We've got to elucidate the exact components that distinguish our technology (lets talk about the team of engineers/scientists that invented it, btw) somehow without deleteriously divulging any secrets. Obviously favorable dyno testing results with John Deere would be a home run hit in this game; official dyno testing has been notoriously unfriendly to our type of technology.\
Take care of these two variables, and the sky is the limit.
Yeah, that's why it's called value investing. Eventually the real world comes crashing down upon the markets; but until that happens, don't expect any sort of rationality in the market. People are out to make money and the trading patterns follow their own logic. What matters is that you own an indisputable piece of a company that is on a trajectory towards prolific success; and once that success is manifest (rather than just being potential), the price will be corrected. If anything, the relative neglect HLNT has shown towards shareholder relations recently is a positive sign -productive resource are overwhelmingly being devoted towards developing the long-term capacity of the company. Obviously, if this was a purely short-term play (with the collusion of the company officers) then that balance would be much more titled towards pumping and pr.
I was wondering why I didn't receive mine today; I'm literally almost right down the road from HLNT. It certainly makes sense for them to use an outside company, and I can't blame them for not sparing much expense to make the delivery expedited.
The price has to rise eventually to meet rising profit potential. Hell it doesn't really matter if nobody discovers this stock for a while, given a couple quarters of booming earnings and stagnant PPS, even a modest dividend would reward shareholders handsomely and send PPS soaring. Make no mistake, people can ignore news in an unsure market but people never ignore cash.
In fact, that was the case with the August 28th news, the mid September news and the late September days. Tomorrow or Thursday should be outstanding.
Hmm, well it all depends in the immediate future on the contract with Dongfeng. A deal with them could bring annual royalties in the tens of millions. Looking at the current market cap (apx. $3 mill), one would expect stock values to increase by several thousand % at least as investors flock to such a cash-rich and promising company. I wouldn't be surprised by .10 at all in the event of a breakthrough. Anything approaching $1 is a bit incredulous right now, though.