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Fido credited me with principal and interest.
I.M.O.
I received a call from my broker who contacted the back room and the answer was the DTC has not sent them the money as of yet.
In my opinion SCOTTRADE has the money but is hanging on to it for the free interest they will receive.
I plan on contacting the D.T.C. on Monday to get an answer why SCOTTRADE did not get that money or did they receive it and SCOTTRADE is lying to me.
GO4AWILDRIDE
I use E*Trade and no payment from them
Has anyone received their money for the second lien notes today?
I use Scottrade and they are always late in these matters.
Also did anyone receive the quarterly interest as well?
GO4AWILDRIDE
There were 2 runoff notes issued only 1 is being called.
class 16 pay off? - I have seen post from many that say class 16 will receive full call on remaining Sept. 29th.
I have Etrade, but have not received or seen any notice of full call.
Can anyone provide copy of statement that shows full call and payoff date of Sept. 29th.
Thanks
The first thing I will do when PIERS is at last paid off is to delete this board.I'm so tired of looking here,and nothing going on.
All this talk on the other related forums is about the billions coming to the LT. Well they will wait with their hats in their hands till we get our long awaited payoff.
Of course I hope they are right as I have enough markers to set me pretty for life.
LOL no you forced him to squawk. It really wasn't hard, but nice job anyway.
I get it.
I was poking fun at myself.
No problem.
E I
Go back and read your original message, you stated FIRST LIEN NOTES and I corrected your error as the FIRST LIEN NOTES were already recalled over a year ago.
Now you corrected your error by stating it is the SECOND LIEN NOTES which is what I corrected you in the first place.
GO4AWILDRIDE
[From the Department of Corrections]
Full call of Second Lien Notes on 9/29/17.
Now I can be accused of issuing fake news. I know better. Slow down and double check the facts.
E I
FIRST LIEN NOTES WERE CALLED IN ALREADY OVER A YEAR AGO.
Do you mean SECOND LIEN NOTES?
That is all I still have.
GO4AWILDRIDE
Yup got my notice from Fidelity.
Who is Fido? The timing makes sense as a settlement agreement should put many things in place for payouts starting Sept. 5th.
September could be exciting month
Fido beat them to it.
Bond/CD Redemption Alert - CUSIP 92936PAB6 - Full Call.
Do you have a link for that. I have not seen any press release.
Full call of First Lien Notes on 9/29/17.
Yes I also had partial 10 shares out of 93 remaining. I was hoping it was all gone, but maybe Aug. 1st
I checked my Scottrade account today and I only got another PARTIAL redemption plus interest.
It was 11 shares in one account and 13 in the other.
GO4AWILDRIDE
These are bonds. I sold mine already.
Re: Large Green Post# 481173
Class 16 shares redeemed for cash! Just got this notice, have not checked account if it was all redeemed.
E*TRADE Account Alert
Sat Jul 01 00:18:29 2017 92936PAB6 has been redeemed for cash.
Your Position in 92936PAB6 has been redeemed for cash.
(c) 2017 E*TRADE Securities LLC,
Report TOS
And busy bending each other over the pool table too ;)
Any clue when the next and final payout will be? I know they have the cash, but the lawyers are eating well.
Thank you so much for reply
It was just showing position 142 and still going for lottery so was confused as to how it will work going forward
No account shows what you are looking for.
Only the liquidation has that info esp when.
GO4AWILDRIDE
So rt now your a/c shows any position in wahuq liq.
And what are we getting for it and when
I thought I had a similar experience as you, but I failed to notice that my available cash balance at my broker went up by the correct amount for the number of bonds called.
You should have received $158 plus interest on all 300 bonds.
The money should go directly into your account NO CHECK.
GO4AWILDRIDE
Hi I have wahuq
I never got chk and every time share go In a lottery and get reduced
Had 300 now only 142
I am getting interest few dollars in to my brokerage a/c
I would really appreciate your input and help
Hi I have wahuq
I never got chk and every time share go In a lottery and get reduced
Had 300 now only 142
I am getting interest few dollars in to my brokerage a/c
I would really appreciate your input and help
I wish the balance of my PIERS 16 account would get paid off. The lawyers are keeping this going for the huge fees they are raking in.
As far as the 13% bonds I am happy to keep them. 13% is hard to beat.
Yep, got an interest payment today.
I saw only a small amount removed and should get that payment into account tomorrow. Was hopping it was all called as I would like it gone.
My transaction history is a little confusing today. Did we get an interest payment today?
My A8s were gone a long time ago (4/15/2015). But my B6s gave me an interest payment on 3/01and they called a little bit yesterday: "BONDS - PARTIAL CALL (92936PAB6), WMIH CORP, 13.0%, due , 03/19/2030, Sold 0.021M @ 100" for a whopping $21.23
Thanks Go4, but still confused as I had two bonds listed in my account.
WMI HLDGS CORP SR 2LIEN - this one was removed from my account
WMI HLDGS CORP SR 2LIEN NT13%30
So was the first lien bond removed? (Your Position in 92936PAB6 has been redeemed for cash.) If so I should get a check in the mail for those?
UPDATE:
92936PAA8 I do not see this one in my account anymore?
Option
The bonds (both initial and second lien) are the responsibility of WMIH to pay the interest as well as to buy them back at their decision.
What the LT owes us is cash. The amount still owed us is somewhere around $2.00 per LTI.
Hope this helps you.
GO4AWILDRIDE
I called Etrade about my class 16: As their email to me showed= Your Position in 92936PAB6 has been redeemed for cash. Their bond department is closed so I could not get this verified.
To me it was always very confusing as it listed two CUSIP (92936PAB6) holding for my Piers holding class 16. Note: one may have had A6 at the end of the cusip
From what I see is one was removed, and looks like fully redeemed.
BUT there is still one listed as WMI HLDGS CORP SR 2LIEN NT13% that remains in my account.
IMO, one was getting paid from the LT and the one that remains was paid 13% interest from WMIH.
WMI HLDGS CORP SR 2LIEN - this one was removed from my account
WMI HLDGS CORP SR 2LIEN NT13%30
Maybe someone that understands these bonds can explain.
92936PAB6 has been redeemed for cash.
Your Position in 92936PAB6 has been redeemed for cash.
In the past it would say partial redeemed for cash.
Can anyone confirm if our class 16 has been paid in full?
Looks like they called only 13 shares out of my 92 in this Partial call lottery.
Name of Security: WMI HLDGS CORP SR 2LIEN
but at least more $$ into my account
Partial call lottery
Name of Security: WMI HLDGS CORP SR 2LIEN
CUSIP: 92936PAB6
Re: Partial call lottery
Please be advised,
The bond position you are currently holding is subject to an upcoming partial call lottery.
If your position is sold before the lottery is completed,
The account holder will be responsible for any losses due to this corporate action event.
Typically, the lottery will be completed within two business days.
Called bonds will be segregated from your original position.
New interest deposit today. Note: I had 1300 shares.
One or more of your investments has paid a cash dividend or interest, the details are below.
Security: WMI HLDGS CORP SR 2LIEN -NT13%30 (92936PAB6)
Amount: $31.10
You are lucky. I have not seen anything deposited in my E-trade account so I guess when I finally get home I'll find a check in my mail.
Hopefully with the good news on the bogus claims we will get paid off in full soon.
Scottrade deposited it directly into my ROTH.
GO4AWILDRIDE
How did the payment reach your Roth ?
Did you get it in the mail,and then send to your Roth Account ?
It would be nice if it went direct to your Roth.
Last time I got a check in the mail,and had to send it to my Roth. I'm away from home for quite a while so I imagine it was again sent to my house.
Well today the money found it's way into my and my wife's Roth.
GO4AWILDRIDE
It will be good to get paid in full because then all LT funds goes to equity the P's K's and common escrow holders and I have a ton of all.
$$$$$$$$ soon! Well at-least this year.
I finally received my check.
I had 1500 shares for voting purposes. My ending balance as of 2/1 is $2,512.62
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Washington Mutual Capital Trust 2001, 5.375% PIERS Units due 7/1/2041
Ticker Symbol: WAHUQ CUSIP: 939322848 Exchange: OTCBB
Security Type: Trust Preferred Security
Issued: 23,000,000
PIERS (Class 16) Treatment under Seventh Amended Joint Plan
Pro Rata Share of (i) Runoff Notes, (ii) Creditor Cash and (iii) Liquidating Trust Interests, in an aggregate amount equal to (a) such holder’s Allowed PIERS Claim and (b) in the event that all Allowed Claims (other than Subordinated Claims) are paid in full, such holder’s Postpetition Interest Claim; provided, however, that, notwithstanding the foregoing, the contractual subordination and subrogation rights of Entities who hold PIERS Preferred Securities shall be preserved and enforced hereunder pursuant to section 510(a) of the Bankruptcy Code and any proposed distribution on account of the PIERS Common Securities of (i) Runoff Notes, (ii) Creditor Cash and (iii) Cash on account of Liquidating Trust Interests shall be recalculated and then distributed, subject to Bankruptcy Rule 3021 and subject to the Lien and priority rights of the PIERS Trustee, to Entities who hold PIERS Preferred Securities, or Liquidating Trust Interests on account thereof, until such time as such Entities’ Allowed PIERS Claims and Postpetition Interest Claims have been satisfied in accordance with the terms and provisions of the PIERS Trust Agreement; and, provided, further, that, following such distributions to holders of the PIERS Preferred Securities, WMI shall not retain any distribution on account of the PIERS Common Securities, including, without limitation, the Runoff Notes; and, provided, further, that, following the distribution to PIERS Preferred Securities referred to above, any remaining distribution of (a) Creditor Cash, (b) Cash received on account of Liquidating Trust Interests, and (c) Runoff Notes, shall be distributed, subject to Bankruptcy Rule 3021 and subject to the Lien or priority rights of the PIERS Trustee, in accordance with the priorities set forth in the Subordination Model attached hereto as Exhibit “H”. The relative priorities among holders of Allowed Senior Notes Claims, Allowed Senior Subordinated Notes Claims, Allowed General Unsecured Claims, Allowed CCB-1 Guarantees Claims, Allowed CCB-2 Guarantees Claims, Allowed PIERS Claims, and Allowed Late-Filed Claims, and the order in which such holders are entitled to receive payment of their Allowed Claims, Intercreditor Interest Claims, Remaining Postpetition Interest Claims and Postpetition Interest Claims, including, without limitation, on account of contractual subordination and subrogation provisions, are set forth in more detail in the Subordination Model attached hereto as Exhibit “H”.
Reorganized Common Stock Election: On the Ballot, each holder of an Allowed PIERS Claim shall be provided the right to elect, in its sole and absolute discretion, to receive such holder’s Pro Rata Share of the Common Stock Allotment in lieu of (i) fifty percent (50%) of such holder’s Litigation Proceeds Interest (solely in its capacity as a holder of an Allowed PIERS Claim) and (ii) subject to the provisions of Section 31.14 of the Plan, some or all of the Runoff Notes that such holder otherwise is entitled to receive pursuant to Section 20.1 of the Plan. To the extent a holder of an Allowed PIERS Claim receives Reorganized Common Stock pursuant to the foregoing election, such holder’s share of the Runoff Notes to which the election was effective shall not be issued and Reorganized WMI shall retain an economic interest in the Litigation Proceeds equal to fifty percent (50%) of the Litigation Proceeds (and such interest shall not constitute a component of the Liquidating Trust Assets) such holder otherwise would have received (solely in its capacity as a holder of an Allowed PIERS Claim) (and the holder’s rights in respect of distributions from the Liquidating Trust shall be adjusted to the extent such proceeds are received by Reorganized WMI). Failure by any holder of an Allowed PIERS Claim to elect to exercise rights provided in this Section 20.2 on or before the Ballot Date shall constitute a deemed waiver and relinquishment of such rights by such holder. Any election made after the Ballot Date shall not be binding upon the Debtors unless the Ballot Date is waived, in writing, by the Debtors; provided, however, that under no circumstance may such waiver by the Debtors occur on or after the Effective Date.
Definition of Runoff Proceeds
Runoff Proceeds ” means (a)(i) all net premiums, reinsurance recoverables, net revenue resulting from commutation of insurance contracts, net interest income, reserve releases and other revenues derived from the reinsurance contracts, investments and other assets of the Trusts less, without duplication, (ii)(A) the reasonable and necessary costs and expenses of the Trusts and the Owner (including, but not limited to, general and administrative expenses, audit fees, required regulatory capital contributions (which capital contributions will be added back to the Runoff Proceeds if applicable regulations permit such distributions thereof), expenses of regulatory compliance, including all costs associated with the Insurance Book Closing, expenses of administering this Indenture and taxes) attributable to the administration of the Trusts or the assets thereof and the collection of premiums and/or management of investments in connection therewith (which expenses shall include reasonable and customary expenses attributable to the foregoing paid under any administrative services agreement, investment management agreement or similar agreement), and (B) claims paid for covered losses and (b) the proceeds from the foregoing received by the Owner or the Issuer in cash, securities and/or other property from any sale, liquidation, merger or other disposition in respect of the Owner or its interests in the Trusts or the assets thereof. The inclusion of clause (b) of this definition shall not be construed as a consent to any sale, liquidation, merger or other disposition or waiver of compliance with any covenant related thereto. For the avoidance of doubt, to the extent that Issuer or WMMRC pays any such cost, capital contribution or expense described in clause (ii)(A), payment by Issuer or WMMRC will be deemed a cost or expense of the Trusts.
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