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Having now just spent one and a half months in the remote Canadian
wilderness, this scam continues to cross my mind in that several
longs believed whatever Brad told them since, as a "good Christian"
man, he wouldn't lie.
Here is a challenge to those that believe that......
Call, write or e-mail Brad and ask him directly,
1) Who was to be the keynote speaker at the Milan meeting?
2) How could anyone supposedly worthy of being the keynote speaker
at such an important meeting, not realize till the day before
the meeting that he had a "schedule conflict"?
3) What was the true reason for the Milan cancellation.
If Brad should maintain that anything in his press release about
the reasons for the meeting cancellation were true, please tell
him that I called him a bald-faced liar since that would be
exactly what he is.
Nostalgia time.....just finished reading my e-mail file and also
reviewing posts from over the years and it was amazing how many
"friends and acquaintance via the internet" that were made over
those year. Sadly, many are already deceased and Alan Kodicek is
the most missed by me (HopefulOne). He was a great guy and became
a good friend and serves as a reminder to me about how many of
the cyber-friends were on the opposite side of the fence. They
may have hated my guts for my anti-RSMI posts, but I admired many
of them such as Alan, Jim Zenere, Cobra, etc. Sometimes I felt
like I had more friends in the "enemy" camp than on my side. I
had a great e-mail from one telling me he still hated my guts but
had to admit I was right. LOL. One of my favorites came from
Wheels, a top flight guy, for sure. Oh man, the list could go on
and on. The "friends" list even includes some inside the Portland
office. It is sad that most (both sides of the fence) lost a lot of
money due to these bandits.
Google Brads name.
It is beyond me how he even shows his face in public but as you'll see he is the best at conning people when you see what he is up to now.
His record with RSMI proves he was very good at it.
Do you believe old Ray W and Brad K are both on LINKED IN. Still playing pitch and catch with unsuspecting public. c/skers..
Oh, for the good old days when RSMI under it's previous symbol
and with SA was selling for $34 a share and the lonely voice of
Beachbreak was heard bashing saying "scam! Scam!" BTW, what is
RSMI selling for nowadays?
Marc a Bruner is peddling garbage I have a story to tell I am one of many who he has scam I testified someone to listen
Even after knowing the TRUTH you still went after people like myself for so called ruining of your investment right to the end.
Continued to back Brad a CON MAN!
Not once did you admit the lies about the so called loan, tech, etc etc etc.
Was money so important to you instead of admitting the truth you made up every excuse there was?
How can you say you didn't see the con job going on?
If Rim gives us nothing else, maybe we are now getting a valuable
lesson. When I first started on RB, I was a long and was exchanging
e-mails with Excel on a different subject. Once I discovered
Rim to be a scam, I posted such and immediately lost most of
my new-found internet friends. In fact, I changed my name to
"goldrusher" so I could continue to e-mail as a friend. As I
said, Beachbreak and I were lonely back then. Soon, however,
Excel and many others jumped the fence and I then had about
as many friends as enemies.
Then the first lesson. I met "HopefulOne", Alan Kodicek and
we lunched many times. A finer guy you would be hard pressed to
meet. He finally admitted to realizing he had been defrauded, but
he never blamed Ray. He blamed himself for not being more diligent.
That was the character of the man and I still miss him now after
a couple years have passed since he died.
Now, Alan had also met Sherman (Cobra) and related to me what a
fine guy Sherman was. What??? Another "enemy" that is a fine
guy? Yeah, but he was a "long". How can that be?
Maybe, the real worth of our characters is not determined by
how we perceive the value of any given stock at any given time.
Yes, I wish I had convinced more and sooner as it would have
saved them big losses, but was that my real concern or was it
to protect my ego after having been called a "basher", etc.
Now is the time of year to re-evaluate our perceptions of
"friends and enemies"
The Christmas sermon is over and I will now pass the collection
plate. Be generous.
N
Excel:
What would you like me to apologize for? Every word I said I believed to be true. I lost a lot of money just like most people.
I haven't looked at the board for a long time. I can't believe that people are still spending time here.
Merry Christmas to you all!
Been posting this story since RB days.
I never get tired of the message over the years.
Please share.
You might print it and read it at your Christmas family gathering.
Pa never had much compassion for the lazy, or those who squandered their means and then never had enough for the necessities. But for those who were genuinely in need, his heart was as big as all outdoors. It was from him that I learned the greatest joy in life comes from giving, not from receiving.
It was Christmas Eve - 1881. I was fifteen years old and feeling like the world had caved in on me because there just hadn't been enough money to buy me the rifle that I'd wanted for Christmas. We did the chores early that night for some reason. I just figured Pa wanted a little extra time so we could read in the Bible.
After supper was over I took my boots off and stretched out in front of the fireplace, and waited for Pa to get down the old Bible. I was still feeling sorry for myself, and ... to be honest ... I wasn't in much of a mood to read Scriptures. But Pa didn't get the Bible. Instead, he bundled up again and went outside. I couldn't figure it out because we had already done all the chores. I didn't worry about it long though. I was too busy wallowing in self-pity.
Soon Pa came back in. It was a cold, clear night out and there was ice in his beard. "Come on, Matt," he said. "Bundle up good; it's cold out tonight."
I was really upset then. Not only wasn't I getting the rifle for Christmas - now Pa was dragging me out in the cold, and for no earthly reason that I could see. We'd already done all the chores, and I couldn't think of anything else that needed doing, especially not on a night like this. But I knew Pa was not very patient at one dragging one's feet when he'd told them to do something, so I got up and put my boots back on and got my cap, coat, and mittens. Ma gave me a mysterious smile as I opened the door to leave the house. Something was up, but I didn't know what.
Outside, I became even more dismayed. There in front of the house was the work team, already hitched to the big sled. Whatever it was we were going to do wasn't going to be a short, quick, little job, I could tell. We never hitched up this sled unless we were going to haul a big load. Pa was already up on the seat, reins in hand. I reluctantly climbed up beside him. The cold was already biting at me. I wasn't happy. When I was on, Pa pulled the sled around the house and stopped in front of the woodshed. He got off and I followed.
"I think we'll put on the high sideboards," he said. "Here - help me." The high sideboards?! It had been a bigger job than I wanted to do with just the low sideboards on, but whatever it was we were going to do would be a lot bigger with the high side boards on.
After we had exchanged the sideboards, Pa went into the woodshed and came out with an armload of wood -- the wood I'd spent all summer hauling down from the mountain, and then all fall sawing into blocks and splitting. What was he doing? Finally I said something. "Pa," I asked, "What are you doing?"
"You been by the widow Jensen's lately?" he asked. The widow Jensen lived about two miles down the road. Her husband had died a year or so before and left her with three children, the oldest being eight. Sure, I'd been by, but so what?
Yeah," I replied, "Why?
"I rode by just today," Pa said. "Little Jakey was out digging around in the woodpile trying to find a few chips. They're out of wood, Matt."
That was all he said, and then he turned and went back into the woodshed for another armload of wood. I followed him. We loaded the sled so high that I began to wonder if the horses would be able to pull it. Finally, Pa called a halt to our loading, then we went to the smoke house and Pa took down a big ham and a side of bacon. He handed them to me and told me to put them in the sled and wait. When he returned, he was carrying a sack of flour over his right shoulder and a smaller sack of something in his left hand. "What's in the little sack?" I asked.
"Shoes - they're out of shoes. Little Jakey just had gunny sacks wrapped around his feet when he was out in the woodpile this morning. I got the children a little candy too. It just wouldn't be Christmas without a little candy."
We rode the two miles to widow Jensen's pretty much in silence. I tried to think through what Pa was doing. We didn't have much by worldly standards. Of course, we did have a big woodpile, though most of what was left now was still in the form of logs that I would have to saw into blocks and split before we could use it. We also had meat and flour, so we could spare that, but I knew we didn't have any money, so why was Pa buying them shoes and candy? Really ... why was he doing any of this? Widow Jensen had closer neighbors than us; it shouldn't have been our concern.
We came in from the blind side of the Jensen house and unloaded the wood as quietly as possible. Then we took the meat and flour and shoes to the door. We knocked. The door opened a crack and a timid voice said, "Who is it?"
"Lucas Miles, Ma'am, and my son, Matt. Could we come in for a bit?"
Widow Jensen opened the door and let us in. She had a blanket wrapped around her shoulders. The children were wrapped in another blanket and were sitting in front of the fireplace by a very small fire that hardly gave off any heat at all. Widow Jensen fumbled with a match and finally lit the lamp.
"We brought you a few things, Ma'am," Pa said ... and set down the sack of flour. I put the meat on the table.
Then Pa handed her the sack that had the shoes in it. She opened it hesitantly and took the shoes out - one pair at a time. There was a pair for her and one for each of the children -- sturdy shoes, the best -- shoes that would last. I watched her carefully. She bit her lower lip to keep it from trembling and then tears filled her eyes and started running down her cheeks. She looked up at Pa like she wanted to say something, but it wouldn't come out.
"We brought a load of wood too, Ma'am," Pa said. He turned to me and said, "Matt, go bring in enough to last awhile. Let's get that fire up to size and heat this place up."
I wasn't the same person when I went back out to bring in the wood. I had a big lump in my throat and as much as I hate to admit it, there were tears in my eyes too. In my mind ... I kept seeing those three kids huddled around the fireplace and their mother standing there with tears running down her cheeks with so much gratitude in her heart that she couldn't speak.
My heart swelled within me and a joy that I'd never known before filled my soul. I had given at Christmas many times before, but never when it had made so much difference. I could see we were literally saving the lives of these people.
I soon had the fire blazing and everyone's spirits soared. The kids started giggling when Pa handed them each a piece of candy and widow Jensen looked on with a smile that probably hadn't crossed her face for a long time.
She finally turned to us. "God bless you," she said. "I know the Lord has sent you. The children and I have been praying that he would send one of his angels to spare us."
In spite of myself, the lump returned to my throat and the tears welled up in my eyes again. I'd never thought of Pa in those exact terms before, but after widow Jensen mentioned it, I could see that it was probably true. I was sure that a better man than Pa had never walked the earth. I started remembering all the times he had gone out of his way for Ma and me, and many others. The list seemed endless, as I thought on it.
Pa insisted that everyone try on the shoes before we left. I was amazed when they all fit and I wondered how he had known what sizes to get. Then I guessed that if he was on an errand for the Lord, that the Lord would make sure he got the right sizes.
Tears were running down widow Jensen's face again when we stood up to leave. Pa took each of the kids in his big arms and gave them a hug. They clung to him and didn't want us to go. I could see that they missed their Pa, and I was glad that I still had mine.
At the door, Pa turned to widow Jensen and said, "The Misses wanted me to invite you and the children over for Christmas dinner tomorrow. The turkey will be more than the three of us can eat, and a man can get cantankerous if he has to eat turkey for too many meals. We'll be by to get you about eleven. It'll be nice to have some little ones around again. Matt, here, hasn't been little for quite a spell." I was the youngest. My two brothers and two sisters had all married and had moved away.
Widow Jensen nodded and said, "Thank you, brother Miles. I don't have to say, 'May the Lord bless you.' I know for certain that He will."
Out on the sled, I felt a warmth that came from deep within, and I didn't even notice the cold. When we had gone a ways, Pa turned to me and said, "Matt, I want you to know something. Your ma and me have been tucking a little money away here and there all year so we could buy that rifle for you, but we didn't have quite enough. Then yesterday a man who owed me a little money from years back came by to make things square. Your ma and me were real excited, thinking that now we could get you that rifle, and I started into town this morning to do just that, but on the way I saw little Jakey out scratching in the woodpile with his feet wrapped in those gunny sacks and I knew what I had to do. Son, I spent the money for shoes and a little candy for those children. I hope you understand."
I understood, and my eyes became wet with tears again. I understood very well, and I was so glad Pa had done it. Now the rifle seemed very low on my list of priorities. Pa had given me a lot more. He had given me the look on widow Jensen's face and the radiant smiles of her three children.
For the rest of my life, whenever I saw any of the Jensens’, or split a block of wood, I remembered … and remembering brought back that same joy I felt riding home beside Pa that night. Pa had given me much more than a rifle that night; he had given me the best Christmas of my life.
That's what made the stock more believable the faith that Ray's family and friends had in it.
Don't feel like the lone ranger. I have a thick file of letters
that include a total abandonment of retirement plans, loss of kids
college funds, divorce,attributing one suicide to RSMI. One
of the very worst stories is the relationship between Ray and his
mother (Mayu). If I had no other reason to despise Ray, this
would suffice. Too many of the losses were beyond what they could
afford to lose and all were due to faith in Ray....well, a couple,
Brad gets the cred for.
We still might get the Chirstmas story about the boy and his shoes for a present. And I must say Rim and the surf boys messed up my life alot!
LOL..still a "first responder" cop. The only guy that was a
basher here before me. It was lonely back then. Soon, it
was lonely being a long.
Merry Christmas back at ya.
Hi Goldrush,
Sorry to hear of your "rib incident."
I was just going through some old bookmarks and came upon RSMI and thought I'd stop in and say hi.
Have a great Christmas everyone.
LOL...I got a PM from "huy_low", who hated my guts, telling me
that he still doesn't like me, but that he had to admit that I
was correct. That is one of my favorite notes from RSMI.
Where are they?
Where's Sherman?
He had plenty of crap to say about me but no apology.
You find out a lot about a man when he's wrong.
Basically you find out if he's a man.
All these longs who promised they'd come back and say they were wrong.
Ya right.
I need to collect their MAN CARD!
Wow!! That post jogs the old memory of so many longs that have
come and gone. I wish I had kept a list. The only one that I ever
met in person was "Hopeful One" who was as fine a guy as you could
ever meet. Unfortunately, he passed away over a year ago. I have
met family members of Ray Willingburgar, but they rarely posted.
Then there was the Tick Tock message board where most of the long
fled to as that could be controlled in their favor more easily. It
is now defunct as is RMSI.
That stopped years a go after Pengy flew the coop after telling everyone to hold on while he was sending out his newsletter for NVEI & the gold scam while he was selling.
Thanks, Teddi.....8 broken ribs couldn't keep me down (much). I
will just have to learn to come down from extension ladders much
more slowly.
goldrusher-
I am glad to hear you are well.-TB
Hey, folks...Ticky-tackyStocks.com, is up for sale for $2,295.
One would think that having had a track record of only picking
serious losers, the price would be $2.95!
excel....that post is right on the target. The current sad part is
that there are still some that believe it to have been a well intended technology company that simply ran short of financing.
Returning from Canada, I drove through Red Bluff, CA which I
believe is Ernie's home. Couldn't avoid thinking about him as I
felt he was a nice guy, but totally didn't comprehend that he
was swindled. This was a con game long before Ray claimed to have
bought the patents to the billion dollar twisted pair technology
from two guys in a garage in Silicon Valley that didn't sell their
billion dollar tech to any related tech compny but rather to a
hologram business card co. in San Diego. LOL, LOL. The con game
was easy to detect at that stage and only got funnier and funnier
with the Milan meeting being the ultimate in the ridiculous dept.
How I wish I were at liberty to divulge the truth on that one!!
Excel...thanks for the concern, but no obituary yet. I was delayed
in heading to Canada due to breaking 8 ribs, but made it in May
and just returned. This year, we had no phones or internet or
roads so just communicated with the locals via marine band radio.
As to this billion dollar company, there is absolutely no hope
or chance other than the possibility of suing Ray and claiming some
of that Tucson real estate. I still hear from some relatives and
insiders but not as often as they have all folded their tents and
moved on.
Brad Ketch nor Ray Willenburgler cares a bit about you or anyone else they lied to.
They are living it up spending money gained through conning people.
They spent their time on the phone, meetings in people's living rooms, lying constantly.
All statements above are FACT!
All one has to do is read the PR's, filings, website statements, etc in order to confirm that.
The amount of damage done to people is unreal I have heard of over the years.
From lost homes, relationships, etc.
My prayer is they REPENT and do their best to try to make things right.
Chances of that are 1 in a TRILLION I acknowledge.
What's my 2+ Million Shares worth now?
Anyone have Goldrushers phone number?
Sent him an email but no reply.
Normally he is in Canada right now and can get internet from resort but haven't got any emails or seen any posts from him.
Anyone know if he's OK?
No posts on this board since about the time the TickTock
site finally shut down. Is that a coincidence?
Yes. But .....................
He's not the only one that needs to come on here.
Anyone out there agre with this comment?
I think it is certainly time for the owner of the Ticky-tacky
stock message board to admit that he was hoodwinked by the
lying con-men of RSMI and apoligize to any of his board members
for any part he may have had in contributing to their big losses
in this scam.
Having too much faith in someone isn't the character flaw. The
flaw is not being able to admit the mistake when it is more than
obvious to you.
How is ExtremeCopper managing without "Cupria inside"?
Also, you heartless people on this board haven't even expressed
the slightest concern about that poor Chinese genius sitting up
there in the tundra during one of the worst winters in years.
Is anyone sending food and firewood up to him? Ray? Brad? You
are the guys that left him stranded. How about our man out there
in San Francisco? Did anyone finally tell him that the big
meeting in the orient got cancelled due to a schedule conflict for
the keynote speaker?
holy shit that is nice. born in 86 :P let us know when you get an authentic :P :P :P
would love one of these or a caterham <sp>
Sorry for the late reply - I don't get here very often. It is a Ford smallblock 331 stroker that I built myself. The rear is a Ford 8.8" (independent) with a Torsen diff.
Awesome car.
Tim
bad azz spoke...8.8 rear?mustang crate motor?specs? congrats!
Aw, cone on Spokeshave......you probably just photoshopped that
picture like RSMI did on their infamous CUPRIA chip.
Very nice website explaining the process. Great work!
Just thought I'd post a pic of my latest toy for those old-timers who are still here:
It is, of course, a 427Cobra.
Details here:
http://www.timsroadster.com/index.html
Tim
In Memory of
M. Zabezensky
January 12, 1937 - January 6, 2014
Obituary
M. Zabezensky
Passed away January 6, 2014. "Zab" was born January 12, 1937 to Jacob and Faye Zabin in Sioux City, Iowa. He served 12 years in the Air Force. He earned his PhD in American Government from Arizona State University and taught Constitutional Law at several universities, including Western Australia University. Most of his life he was an investor and founder of the Arizona Pistachio Corporation. He enjoyed growing tropical fruits, Chinese dates and tomatoes. He married Ferne Bridge on July 31, 1964. They enjoyed traveling to every state in the United States. They also visited 35 countries around the world, stepping foot on all seven continents. They spent summers in the Ponderosa Pines in Prescott, Arizona. He is survived by his wife, brother Harold (Phyllis) Zabin of University Park, FL, two nephews and three great nephews. A memorial Service will be held Sunday, February 16th at 2pm at Mariposa Gardens 6747 E. Broadway Road, Mesa. Memorial Contributions may be made to the Veterans charity of your choice.