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You cannot teach a man anything
you can only help him to find it
within himself..
~ Galileo Galilei ~ (1564-1642)
Italian astronomer
The third-rate mind is only happy
when it is thinking with the majority.
The second-rate mind is only happy
when it is thinking with the minority.
The first-rate mind is only happy
when it is thinking..
~ A. A. Milne ~ (1882-1956)
[Alan Alexander Milne]
English author
When a government is dependent upon bankers for money
they and not the leaders of the government control the situation
since the hand that gives is above the hand that takes
Money has no motherland
financiers are without patriotism and without decency
their sole object is gain..
~ Napoleon Bonaparte ~ (1769-1821)
French emperor
1815
Central bankers always try to avoid their last big mistake
So every time there's the threat of a contraction in the economy
they'll over stimulate the economy, by printing too much money
The result will be a rising roller coaster of inflation
with each high and low being higher than the preceding one..
~ Milton Friedman ~ (1912-2006)
Nobel Prize-winning economist, economic advisor to President Ronald Reagan, "ultimate guru of the free-market system"
There is no means of avoiding the final collapse of a boom brought about by credit expansion
The alternative is only whether the crisis should come sooner as a result of a voluntary abandonment of further credit expansion
or later as a final or total catastrophe of the currency system involved..
~ Ludwig von Mises ~ (1881-1973)
Economist and social philosopher
Anyone who believes in indefinite growth in anything physical
on a physically finite planet
is either mad or an economist..
~ Kenneth Boulding ~ (1910-1993)
British-American economist, educator, peace activist, poet, religious mystic, devoted Quaker, systems scientist, and interdisciplinary philosopher
Prejudices are what fools use for reason.
~ Voltaire ~ (1694-1778)
[François Marie Arouet]
Only the small secrets need to be protected
The big ones are kept secret by public incredulity..
~ Marshall McLuhan ~ (1911-1980)
Canadian philosopher of communication theory
That men do not learn very much
from the lessons of history
is the most important of all
the lessons of history..
~ Aldous Huxley ~ (1894-1963)
Author
...it is an axiom in political science
that unless a people are educated and enlightened
it is idle to expect the continuance of civil liberty
or the capacity for self government..
~ Texas Declaration of Independence, March 2, 1836 ~
In questions of power, then,
let no more be said of confidence in man,
but bind him down from mischief
by the chains of the Constitution..
~ Thomas Jefferson ~
Who would be free themselves
must strike the blow..
~ Lord Byron ~ (1788-1824)
[George Gordon Noel Byron], The 6th Baron Byron of Rochdale
Source.. Childe Harold's Pilgrimage
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four
If that is granted, all else follows..
~ George Orwell ~ (1903-1950)
[Eric Arthur Blair], British author
Source.. his book, '1984', 1949
You are on a roll tonight Vex. Some of these sort of describe whey we are here, but it is sure a deep hole to get out of?
A patriot is an individual who is willing
to stand up against one's own government
when the government is wrong..
~ Ron Paul ~
quote @ 00.28
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=55609021
How I wish that somewhere there existed an island
for those who are wise and of goodwill
In such a place even I would be an ardent patriot..
~ Albert Einstein ~ (1879-1955)
Physicist and Professor, Nobel Prize 1921
In the beginning of a change the patriot is
a scarce man and brave, and hated and scorned
When his cause succeeds, the timid join him
for then it costs nothing to be a patriot..
~ Mark Twain ~ (1835-1910)
The political machine triumphs because
it is a united minority acting against a divided majority..
~ Will Durant ~
If large numbers of people believe in freedom of speech
There will be freedom of speech even if the law forbids it
but
If public opinion is sluggish inconvenient minorities will be persecuted
Even if laws exist to protect them..
~ George Orwell ~ (1903-1950)
Truth always rests with the minority, and the minority is always stronger than the majority
because the minority is generally formed by those who really have an opinion
while the strength of a majority is illusory, formed by the gangs who have no opinion
and who, therefore, in the next instant (when it is evident that the minority is the stronger) assume its opinion
while Truth again reverts to a new minority..
~ Soren Kierkegaard ~ (1813-1855)
Danish philosopher
If by the mere force of numbers
A majority should deprive a minority of any clearly written constitutional right
It might, in a moral point of view, justify revolution..
~ Abraham Lincoln ~ (1809-1865)
16th US President
Source.. First Inaugural Address, 4 March 1861
The Revolution was effected before the War commenced
The Revolution was in the minds and hearts of the people
This radical change in the principles, opinions, sentiments, and affections of the people
Was the real American Revolution..
~ John Adams ~ (1735-1826)
2nd U.S. President
It does not require a majority to prevail
but rather an irate, tireless minority
keen to set brush fires in people's minds..
~ Samuel Adams ~ (1722-1803)
Known as the "Father of the American Revolution."
Bear in mind this sacred principle,
that though the will of the majority is in all cases to prevail,
that will to be rightful must be reasonable;
that the minority possess their equal rights, which equal law must protect,
and to violate would be oppression..
~ Thomas Jefferson ~ (1743-1826
Source.. First Inaugural Address, 4 March 1801
We must, therefore, emphasize that 'we' are not the government
the government is not 'us'
The government does not in any accurate sense 'represent' the majority of the people
But, even if it did, even if 70 percent of the people decided to murder the remaining 30 percent
this would still be murder and would not be voluntary suicide on the part of the slaughtered minority
No organicist metaphor, no irrelevant bromide that 'we are all part of one another,' must be permitted to obscure this basic fact..
~ Murray N. Rothbard ~ (1926-1995)
Dean of the Austrian School of Economics
A political convention illustrates the workings of majority rule
If the minority in a party advocate a progressive move which is defeated when put to a vote in the convention
the minority are prohibited from advancing it during the campaign
if this minority refuse to advocate what the convention has decided to be right
they are barred from the platform and press, the cry of majority rule is raised against them, and they are called "traitors to the party
but if they abandon their progressive ideas and advocate the wishes of the majority
they are rewarded with office
Thus majority rule develops the dishonest politician
in order to rule sometime, he consents to being ruled at other times
The desire to rule and the willingness to be ruled ends in degradation
and no one who accepts the principles of equal liberty can endorse majority rule..
~ Charles T. Sprading ~ (1871-1959)
Libertarian activist, writer
Source.. Charles T. Sprading's Introduction to Liberty and the Great Libertarians; An Anthology On Liberty; A Hand-book Of Freedom
(Los Angeles: The Libertarian Publishing Company, 1913)
Good run Vex, I will be using many of these in emails and posts somewhere. I don't like the one I am responding to because it explains how Obama got elected twice. Only 3% care enough to speak out, if his quote is accurate.
Freedom is not worth living if it does not connote freedom to err.
It passes my comprehension how human beings,
be they ever so experienced and able,
can delight in depriving other human beings of that previous right..
~ Mahatma Mohandas K. Gandhi ~ (1869-1948)
Source.. quoted in Pearls Wisdom (Glanze & Agel), 1987
The law, unfortunately
has always been retained on the side of power;
laws have uniformly been enacted for the protection and perpetuation of power..
~ Thomas Cooper ~ (1759-1839)
Source.. Liberty of the Press, 1830
Collectivism and freedom are mortal enemies
Only one will survive..
~ G. Edward Griffin ~
All it takes is 3% of the people to change the world
The rest have no taste for deep conviction or extended conflict
and will always follow the trend..
~ G. Edward Griffin ~
The test for whether one is living in a police state
is that those who are charged with enforcing the law
are allowed to break the laws with impunity..
~ Jon Roland ~ (1944-)
founder of the Constitution Society
Reader comments:
An excellent observation, one inevitably leading to thoughts about other practical aspects of Power and freedom. For police power (imprisonment and dispossession) is the most basic and intrusive of all state powers. Such authority is always ripe for abuse, corruption that survives only when it's tolerated at the next level of authority, thence upwards.
Roland's thought holds particularly negative connotations for the U.S., Planet Earth's premier police, surveillance and prison state.
On the other hand, according to the White House and its Press(titute) Corps, all can be made well by sending our celebrated war machine, er, DEFENSE apparatus to Ukraine. After all, those damn Russkies have got a real nerve ... putting their bloody country so close to all those military bases of ours.
Obama = Bush. Both they and their respective Parties are practicing now-firmly established, neoconservative expansionist (Imperial) policy via pre-emptive warfare and endless FBI-CIA destabilizing operations, on at least five Continents.
Pursuit of global hegemony has also meant the end of seriously organized domestic dissent, the personal freedom simply to be left alone and the ultimate, inevitable exclusion of certain entitled Persons from the Rule of Law.
In case one hasn't noticed, cops are increasingly, violently running amok everywhere in the U.S., with near total-impunity.
Consider the Tsarnaev witness, Ibragim Todashev, shot six times by a Special Agent, once in the head, six hours into his 3rd formal FBI interrogation. An apparent execution, his death would appear to constitute manslaughter at least.
Todashev's killing was recently ruled "justifiable" by the Miami-Dade D.A. In an awake society that would constitute grounds for an instant recall election and replacement of an apparently tainted D.A.
Unfortunately the precise opposite is the general reality: Todashev's is anything but an isolated case. The killer cop almost always walks.
Isn't it 'curious' that out of all the crime statistics kept in America's endless supply of security-state computer memory, one statistic that ISN'T kept is how many people die annually at the hands of police?
Roland's is more than a quote. It's a truism.
"A-mer-ika, A-mer-ika ... God's Face has turned from thee ...
No lamp of Light, no Bill of Rights ...
corrupt from sea to sea."
-- Mann, Kalamazoo
Freedom of men under government
is to have a standing rule to live by, common to every one of that society and made by the legislative power vested in it
and not to be subject to the inconstant, uncertain, arbitrary will of another man..
~ John Locke ~ (1632-1704)
English philosopher and political theorist.
Considered the ideological progenitor of the American Revolution and who, by far, was the most often non-biblical writer quoted by the Founding Fathers of the USA.
Source.. Two Treatises on Government, 1690
I am free, no matter what rules surround me.
If I find them tolerable, I tolerate them;
if I find them too obnoxious, I break them.
I am free because I know that I alone am
morally responsible for everything I do..
~ Robert A. Heinlein ~ (1907-1988)
American writer
One has not only a legal
but a moral responsibility to obey just laws
but conversely
one has a moral responsibility to disobey unjust laws..
~ Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. ~ (1929-1968)
US civil rights leader
In questions of law or of fact
conscience is very often confounded with opinion.
No man's conscience can tell him the rights of another man;
they must be known by rational investigation or historical inquiry..
~ Dr. Samuel Johnson ~ (1709-1784)
Source.. 1773
It is not the business of the law
to make anyone good or reverent
or moral or clean or upright..
~ Murray N. Rothbard ~ (1926-1995)
Dean of the Austrian School of Economics
Those who suppress freedom
always do so in the name of law and order..
~ John V. Lindsay ~ (1921-2000)
U.S. Congressman, Mayor of New York City
Source.. The City, by John V. Lindsay, 1969
In my youth I travelled much, and I observed in different countries, that the more public provisions were made for the poor, the less they provided for themselves, and of course became poorer.
And, on the contrary, the less was done for them, the more they did for themselves, and became richer.
There is no country in the world where so many provisions are established for them; so many hospitals to receive them when they are sick or lame, founded and maintained by voluntary charities; so many alms-houses for the aged of both sexes, together with a solemn general law made by the rich to subject their estates to a heavy tax for the support of the poor.
Under all these obligations, are our poor modest, humble, and thankful; and do they use their best endeavors to maintain themselves, and lighten our shoulders of this burthen? - On the contrary, I affirm that there is no country in the world in which the poor are more idle, dissolute, drunken, and insolent.
The day you passed that act, you took away from before their eyes the greatest of all inducements to industry, frugality, and sobriety, by giving them a dependence on somewhat else than a careful accumulation during youth and health, for support in age or sickness.
In short, you offered a premium for the encouragement of idleness, and you should not now wonder that it has had its effect in the increase of poverty..
~ Benjamin Franklin ~ (1706-1790) US Founding Father
Source.. On the Price of Corn, and Management of the Poor, London Chronicle, November 29, 1766
http://www.historycarper.com/1766/11/29/on-the-price-of-corn-and-management-of-the-poor
All acts of the legislature apparently contrary to natural rights and justice are in our law...considered void. ...We are in conscience bound to disobey..
~ Robin vs. Hardaway, 1 Jefferson 109 (1772, VA)
Decency, security, and liberty alike demand that government officials shall be subjected to the same rules of conduct that are commanded to the citizen..
~ Olmstead vs. U.S., 277 US 438, 485; 48 S. Ct. L. Ed. 944 (1928)
Here's to the crazy ones, the misfits, the rebels, the troublemakers, the round pegs in the square holes ...
the ones who see things differently --
they're not fond of rules, and they have no respect for the status quo. ...
You can quote them, disagree with them, glorify or vilify them,
but the only thing you can't do is ignore them
because they change things. ...
They push the human race forward,
and while some may see them as the crazy ones,
we see genius,
because the people who are crazy enough to think that they can change the world,
are the ones who do..
~ Steve Jobs ~ (1955-2011)
No man has a natural right to commit aggression
on the equal rights of another, and
this is all from which the laws ought to restrain him..
~ Thomas Jefferson ~ (1743-1826)
If you believe it reprehensible
to possess the means and will to use lethal force to repel a criminal assault
how can you call upon another to do so for you?
~ Jeffrey R. Snyder ~
American attorney, author
Source.. A Nation of Cowards, 113 Public Interest 40, 52 (Fall 1993)
In framing a government
which is to be administered by men over men
the great difficulty lies in this:
you must first enable the government to control the governed
and in the next place
oblige it to control itself..
~ James Madison ~ (1751-1836)
Father of the Constitution for the USA, 4th US President
Source.. The Federalist; Feb.8, 1788
Comments:
There were 2 trains of thought; one, was a government with men over men and the other was servants of sovereigns with sufficient ability to administer law and render justice. Both concerned themselves with the government controlling itself. The American experiment, that of equal sovereigns winning out (no men over men), was such a novel concept that no language on earth, including English, had words to describe the concept. By way of example: to govern creates a mental image of men over men. There is no term that relays a mental image of representative servants administering law, justice, and the otherwise political affairs for individual sovereigns, united in equality. That experimental foundation has been lost to vain sound bites and uncontrolled governmental overlords.
Mike, Norwalk
Life's tragedy
is that we get old too soon
and wise too late..
~ Benjamin Franklin ~ (1706-1790)
US Founding Father
May [the Declaration of Independence] be to the world, what I believe
it will be (to some parts sooner, to others later, but finally to all),
the signal of arousing men to burst the chains under which monkish
ignorance and superstition had persuaded them to bind themselves,
and to assume the blessings and security of self-government. That form
which we have substituted, restores the free right to the unbounded
exercise of reason and freedom of opinion. All eyes are opened,
or opening, to the rights of man." June 24, 1826
~ Thomas Jefferson ~ (1743-1826)
US Founding Father, drafted the Declaration of Independence, 3rd US President
Source.. letter to Roger Weightman on June 24, 1826. It was his last letter, written ten days before his death - July 4th, 1826, the 50th anniversary of the signing of the Declaration of Independence.
Agreed
By following what has been written by them
It would be like they were right there with you
And would give an excellent perception of today
Human nature will never change
Unless genetically modified..
When once a republic is corrupted
there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils
but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principle..
~ Thomas Jefferson ~
That was a good one T8E..
The first 2.11 minutes of the Farm Aid 2014 song are great, and on topic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gb3z_IiDgg
Socrates and Plato are two people from the past I'd like to spend a day with, geez, that would be interesting to see what they think of today
s political situation. I doubt they'd be surprised, especially Plato. And just listening to their general wisdom would be a gas.
Truth, the fundamental paradox
of what Socrates did and of Plato's answer
may be stated this way
What we think we know, we don't
~ Socrates ~
What we really know, we don't know that we know
~ Plato ~
He, O men, is the wisest who, like Socrates, knows that his wisdom is in truth worth nothing. (tr. Jowett)
http://www.roangelo.net/logwitt/socratic-ignorance.html
TY, I needed that, I have not given up totally
I get a bit depressed at times. Since my post I saw a video that I can't locate that had the Republicans in Maine fixing the vote count so Ron Paul lost. That was a key early primary.
It is impossible to introduce into society
a greater change and a greater evil than this:
The conversion of the law into an instrument of plunder.
What are the consequences of such a perversion?
It would take volumes to describe them all. Thus we must content ourselves with pointing out the most striking.
In the first place, it erases from everyone’s conscience the distinction between justice and injustice.
Another effect of this tragic perversion of the law
is that it gives an exaggerated importance to political passions and conflicts and to politics in general..
~ Fredrick Bastiat ~
1848
The liberties of our Country
the freedom of our civil constitution
are worth defending at all hazards
And it is our duty to defend them against all attacks.
We have received them as a fair Inheritance from our worthy Ancestors:
They purchased them for us with toil and danger and expense of treasure and blood;
and transmitted them to us with care and diligence.
It will bring an everlasting mark of infamy on the present generation, enlightened as it is,
if we should suffer them to be wrested from us by violence without a struggle;
or be cheated out of them by the artifices of false and designing men.
Of the latter we are in most danger at present:
Let us therefore be aware of it. Let us contemplate our forefathers and posterity
and resolve to maintain the rights bequeathed to us from the former, for the sake of the latter . . .
Instead of sitting down satisfied with the efforts we have already made
which is the wish of our enemies,
the necessity of the times, more than ever, calls for our utmost circumspection, deliberation, fortitude and perseverance.
Let us remember, that, if we suffer tamely a lawless attack upon our liberty,
we encourage it, and involve others in our doom.
It is a very serious consideration, which should deeply impress our minds
that millions yet unborn may be the miserable sharers in the event..
~ Samuel Adams ~
Once upon a time a group of individuals declared to the world that they would fight and risk death
rather than tolerate the oppressions of abusive government
Ours is a very different country today from what it was in 1776
Are we too complacent to risk our own comfort so that our children may live in freedom?
Will we openly resist despotism as a nation, or will we just complain and bicker amongst ourselves
while our sacred freedoms are usurped by globalist monsters?
The unconstitutional acts that have been imposed on the American people can be removed with the stroke of a pen
However, that pen will not move without the power of the people behind it
If you cannot believe—will not believe— that there are, in fact, individuals/groups that have been intentionally ruining our country and her people
if the walls in your mind are too great to accept the truth
then understand that these walls are the primary obstacle which must be overcome in our countrymen before this nation can be restored to its proper form
If this, the last great hope of human freedom, is lost, it will have happened on our watch
If so . . . shame on all of us..
~~~~~~
Power concedes nothing without a demand
It never did and never will
Find out just what people will submit to
and you have found out the exact amount of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them
and these will continue till they have resisted with either words or blows, or with both
The limits of tyrants are prescribed by the endurance of those whom they suppress..
~ Frederick Douglas ~
We have been under assault
We risk losing our right of free expression, our right to own property, our rights of self defense and preservation
our right to be governed from our states rather than a federal bureaucracy
and soon, if we do not prevail, our right to adequate representation in our own government
Even our history and that of our ancestors is under attack
We will witness the military and economic power of this nation used against us at the will of a few
not the will of the People
We will be disarmed, disenfranchised, and taught to hate one another
We will be forced to believe that the U.S. Government, and not our Creator, is our caretaker and will demand complete control over our lives
It is for this reason, that we cannot . . . we shall not surrender
To our adversaries
We have seen your tactics, we know your strategy
And we fear that you have little or no plan to simply walk away
If it is war that you are thinking of . . . if it is a war that you are planning
let it be known that you will not wage a war against the “unsuspecting”
You will name the stakes. You will fire the first shot. You will make the choice
As you have made your positions known to your leaders, we have done likewise
But unlike you, we take orders from a Higher Power, and not from corrupt men
We are as prepared as we were at the end of last year
You have heard our demand. We want our country back. Make no mistake about it . . .
we will and shall continue to use the soapbox, the ballot box, the jury box
and if left with no other choice, the other box you seek to take away from us
As many of us today stand in fear of what may become of us
we cannot and shall not prevail until each of us looks deep within ourselves
understands the crossroad at which we stand
looks our adversaries in the eye and says without reservation or hesitation...
You will have to kill all of us..
~ J.J. Johnson ~
Editor and Chief, Sierra Times.com
Still, if you will not fight for the right
when you can easily win without bloodshed
if you will not fight when your victory
will be sure and not so costly
you may come to the moment when you will have to fight
with all the odds against you
and only a precarious chance for survival
There may be a worse case
You may have to fight when there is no chance of victory
because it is better to perish
than to live as slaves..
~ Winston Churchill ~
...tell me, when did liberty ever exist
when the sword and the purse were given up from the people?
Unless a miracle shall interpose, no nation ever did, nor ever can
retain its liberty after the loss of the sword and the purse
Guard with jealous attention the public liberty
Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel
Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force
and whenever you give up that force
you are inevitably ruined..
~ Patrick Henry ~
Hate to say it, but we are doomed. In my Minnesota more people than registered voted in 2012 in the 3 big metropolitan counties, all liberal strong holds. Those records that are supposed to be public have been taken sown. Same thing happened in 2008 when Franken lost by 3500 votes. He probably lost by 10,000. But then on the recount, he won. One liberal was seen unloading trunk load of absentee ballots after the main election was over.
A local state senator, republican, vote with the republicans on all votes that were not close. On close issues he voted 90% of the time with Democrats. He died young of alcoholism. Maybe that was God's punishment?
George Wallace, JFK, RFK, Sonny Bono, Larry McDonald and many others challenged The "Boyz" and lost their lives. In spite of controlling the educational system, all levels of government, and the media, they still have to cheat to win. I don't see how they will be stopped. American is doomed ansd the destruction really speed up the last 6 years. The "Boyz" are really getting arrogant.
Am I the only one missing something?
Free people are not equal.Equal people are not free.
"A gun is like a parachute. If you need one, and don't have one, you'll probably never need one again."
The definition of the word Conundrum is: something that is puzzling or confusing.
Here are six Conundrums of socialism in the United States of America :
1. America is capitalist and greedy - yet half of the population is subsidized. EBT???
2. Half of the population is subsidized - yet they think they are victims.
3. They think they are victims - yet their representatives run the government.
4. Their representatives run the government - yet the poor keep getting poorer.
5. The poor keep getting poorer - yet they have things that people in other countries only dream about.
6. They have things that people in other countries only dream about - yet they want America to be more like those other countries.
Think about it! And that, my friends, pretty much sums up the USA in the 21st Century.
Makes you wonder who is doing the math.
These three, short sentences tell you a lot about the direction of our
current government and cultural environment:
1. We are advised to NOT judge ALL Muslims by the actions of a few lunatics, but we are encouraged to judge ALL gun owners by the actions of a few lunatics.
Funny how that works. And here's another one worth considering...
2. Seems we constantly hear about how Social Security is going to run out of money.
But we never hear about welfare or food stamps running out of money?
What's interesting is the first group "worked for" their money, but the second didn't.
Think about it.....and Last but not least:
3. Why are we cutting benefits for our veterans, no pay raises for our military and cutting our army to a level lower than before WWII, but we are not stopping the payments or benefits to illegal aliens. (future voters)
Am I the only one missing something?
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