[Jakelegal]

What else is there to do but hold right? Someones going to want the shell sooner or later…

[Jakelegal]

Time is near for what ?

[Musical Shares]

I think you took a wrong turn at your portal.

[Blue Skys]

Actually no! I was almost 10 years early to this party. Its going to be grand.

[Musical Shares]

At the time of the great journey across Flat Earth investors were to believe that they were the only contributors to the cost of the travelers employment.

Modern day Marco Polo in my eyes. Bringing back mysterious goods from far away lands.

At a later conference call Ziv stated that Howard was representing the company as a sort of IR rep. It seemed to imply that Howard's role was to interface with investors on Ihub.

What do you think is going to happen next? I feel that the time is near.

It's 2023. Your about 4 years late. :)

[Blue Skys]

More great progress! The compensation of the traveler is an interesting issue. At the time of the great journey across Flat Earth investors were to believe that they were the only contributors to the cost of the travelers employment. At a later conference call Ziv stated that Howard was representing the company as a sort of IR rep. It seemed to imply that Howard's role was to interface with investors on Ihub.

What do you think is going to happen next? I feel that the time is near.

[Musical Shares]

I'm afraid we are not making good progress sorting this out. Also, I keep putting an "e" at the end of his last name. That is incorrect. My bad.

I never said Jeffery Low did not receive shares. I said the person you call "Howard" who traveled to Israel did not receive shares and is not related to Jeffrey Low.

Low indeed received shares transferred from Turner to him. It's clearly documented in quarterly reports in 2017.

I don't see the connection between him trying to sell his house and the shares? And I don't understand how someone "quietly" de-list their home. None of that really has much bearing on what Friedland did nor Bignitz.

[Blue Skys]

Looks like we are making good progress sorting this out. First you said that Jeffrey Low did not receive shares. Now you agree with me that he got Ziv's shares. Jeffrey Low used his home address on a filing so I have his home saved as a favorite on Zillow. He listed it for sale when OWCP was hot and quietly delisted when the other Jeffrey got busted and the stock suffered a reduced market capitalization.

[Musical Shares]

You can believe what you want. But, boy, are you wrong. I'm being so honest here.

How would you even know that the two Lowes were brothers on social media? Did it actually state that? Because, you know, there are quite a few Howard Lowes in Maryland.

I have no idea who Jeffrey Lowe is personally.

[Blue Skys]

I was able to connect the Lowes via social media at the time. Interesting that you know them.

[Musical Shares]

Your talking about Medmar and Jeffrey Lowe. Medmar was based out of Maryland.

Howard and Jeffrey Lowe are not brothers! Lowe knows Turner. They are friends.

The person you call "Howard" has nothing to do with Lowe. That guy was just an average investor that wanted to help others know the truth.

[Blue Skys]

There was a filing that Ziv sold him the shares. I'm not going to prioritize finding it again. I don't believe it was for cash. I only call Howard Howard because that is the name on the Israeli Visa was posted on the go fund me.

[Musical Shares]

Where in the world did something like that come from?

That isn't true at all.

I have spoken to the person you refer to as "Howard" in the past and he has no brother in Maryland. And has never been awarded any shares of this company either from Ziv or other past executives.

[Blue Skys]

That second part is interesting. What do you suppose happened to the shares that Ziv was awarded in his legal action against the company that he sold to Howard's brother in Maryland?

[Musical Shares]

I think that I am alone here expecting the business to arise from its ashes more powerful than ever before but even if not anything could merge into this ticker.

Nope. I'm here.

Except for the guy in Maryland but he is small potatoes and could easily be bought out.

There's nobody in Maryland. No one has any ownership in this. If that was the case, he would have been named in the list of last known members that the court ordered OWCP to provide. Kirkland would be able to go after him.

Kirkland has to be the only one who takes control either through buying the shell or seizure of assets. There is a $8 million dollar judgement against this.

[Blue Skys]

You could always file an amended return in 3 years and take the deduction after the scenario plays out and you know that you won't be paying the IRS back with interest. I think that I am alone here expecting the business to arise from its ashes more powerful than ever before but even if not anything could merge into this ticker. Its a squeaky low floater. Except for the guy in Maryland but he is small potatoes and could easily be bought out.

[swamp boy]

I did sell all my shares in 2023 however there is a tax deduction allowed for theft ,we only were reimbersed half .The question is the other half tax deductable for fraud/theft ?

[Blue Skys]

Sell your shares? That would be like when my Aunt sold my Uncles old Chevy cheap when he died. Yes it was a 67 Vette Convertible.

[lola4473]

you have to sell your shares (I believe) in order to take the loss/realized loss. Keep in mind there is only a $3k max deduct you can take.

[swamp boy]

any ideas for tax season ,if this was a thef/fraud and we only recieved half reimbersment is the other half tax deductable.? thanks

[retired early]

It was only a moment above $3 as well as $2 maybe a day and settled a week around $1.30 for a week. I sat on 1.15 mil shares and when it began to break back under a buck, I began to unload. Wish I had listened to I GLOW sooner. Oh well :)

[Blue Skys]

That's funny but your target is missing a few zeros!

[Tesla Trillionaire]

Oh right I forgot. This is going back to $3.23. New CEO is Hordichi Lilnitz.

[Blue Skys]

Really, I just miss the good times bantering with Howard. I hope that he enjoyed it as much as I did!

[Blue Skys]

I don't have any dead shares. Mine are seeds that will sprout into a glorious future. Any time I start to slip into doubt I reread my old emails from Ziv and Bignitz.

[Tesla Trillionaire]

What’s everyone actually doing with their dead shares? Selling for tax loss? Holding for something to occur years from now? I have 3k tax loss elsewhere so no point in selling this year for me. But what’s the point in holding either….

[Blue Skys]

Some visionary got some shares for the same price that Lenny sells mattresses this morning. Their Mattress was Freeeeeee!

[sawxman]

That’s how I feel about it, definitely going to call back and force the issue. Thanks

[Blue Skys]

There you go. If they don't know what to do with the shares they can put them in my account.

[ChuckBits]

As I've posted in the past, I've done this multiple times (unfortunately) with TD Ameritrade and never had a problem. They usually don't even charge a commission. They do it as a courtesy. They'll "pay me" a dollar or whatever for the lot & then charge about the same as a fee. I have no idea what your account value is (none of my business) but I'll assume you have other holdings & I don't know if that matters?

I would be pissed and would definitely call them on Monday. Ask for a manager, what their complaint process is, etc. Tell them this is bullshit and "you know people who do this with no issue with TDA".

Offer to pay a $25 fee or something like that. Ask them if "you" can open a second "trading account" or something like that in your name to do it. Or if you can open an account in your wife's name, a friend, etc to do it. If you can & they make you go that route, before you go thru the hassle, be sure to tell them you be closing both accounts immediately after execution because their service sucks and you want to work with a broker that actually has customer service.

Good luck.

[Blue Skys]

That's very risky. In a few weeks the stock may appreciate and you could make a profit and lose your tax loss.

[sawxman]

Thanks, I will definitely be calling them back in a few weeks if this doesn’t work.

I’ll keep updated, thanks again.

[Blue Skys]

https://www.kiplinger.com/article/investing/t052-c001-s001-how-to-sell-worthless-stock.html

[sawxman]

Just a limit order and I couldn’t even add an extra 0 to the decimal to make price $.23 instead of $23

[Blue Skys]

Will your broker let you put in a sell at the market order? Then the big accumulator could get them at his prevailing price.

[sawxman]

Thanks for your response. I thought so too but when I called this was the only option they gave me.

I guess I’ll give it a month and then I’ll try calling them again.

[Blue Skys]

I don't have an account that would let me buy them. I think that your broker could help you donate them to charity.

[sawxman]

Is there someone out there kind enough to purchase my shares for sale, limit sell order for 230,000 shares at .0001 (lowest Fidelity would allow me). Need to deduct tax loss but there’s basically no market =\

[fred26]

I have emailed the fund regarding my broker not receiving my settlement cheque.

I also queried the fact that an active claim submitted on my behalf has a 2024 settlement date.

Hopefully I will receive a reply.

[fred26]

Thanks for the reply. Much appreciated.

My claim is being handled by my broker. So I contacted them.

All they had to say that the claim is active (I assume this means it hasn't been rejected).

They also said that the expected settlement date is
3/28/2024.

Very strange indeed as investors are currently receiving their settlement cheques.

They were unable to provide any further information.

[DGlover]

Do you mean you never got any correspondence about your claims? Each claim should have received a yay or nay. It qualified or it did not qualify. If you didn't receive anything, you should call them for full explanation. sorry to hear this.

[DGlover]

Do you mean you never got any correspondence about your claims? Each claim should have received a yay or nay. It qualified or it did not qualify. If you didn't receive anything, you should call them for full explanation. sorry to hear this.

[fred26]

Strange that I have not heard from the fund at all.
Nothing , not even a letter of explaining reasons for non payment.
Surely there should be some correspondence regarding my claim.
Anyone have the same problem?