Is Bob Bad For iHub? (BADBOB)

[Slipstick Libby]

I ALWAYS miss all the fun, Bob! So when did we surrender to Canada? And French Canada at that!

Is it because we were stooopid and sent our army a long way from home instead of guarding against the evil plots of warmongering Canucks?

Does the date have anything to do with this?

[Cassandra]

Is this where to post complaints about the new site? Well here's one for you: #msg-885309

[PappaJohn]

Cute, Bob

What I have experienced in life is that those who are fools in
April usually do an excellent job of being fools the other
eleven months of the year.

Site change had to take a lot of work,eh. Very well done.


PappaJohn

[usuck ani knowit]

Bob is cool!!
That POS SI Jeff, he's UFB!
One biased MF'er is he!!
I don't even read SI anymore.

[vam]

Glad you found it.

Now we can form an alliance and move on to greener pastures.

I'm starting new camera development tonight. I'll see if I can stream this live....

details to follow.

[BugBuster]

Hey,

I finally found my id. (lost my wallet)

[Bixmann]

I second that motion.

He is a gentleman with integrity and fairness we can all learn from.

Bix

[jsladek]

SI Admin (Bob) Rules!

[marty_lewis]

wrong thread, sorry.

[Joemoney]

OK, I'm going to dishonor myself here, but....

one good thing bob has done for the site is rid of spam. he does a great job at that, and i've seen a very high increase in spam within the last week.

joe

[Seahag]

Gary, HUH ????? SH

Post #1, And I'm covered on my stock board

AND You guys are slacking on your post #'s, etc
I suppose that since it's the weekend we can relax a bit but come Monday Iexpect things to tighten up or I'm talking to Bob about it. Gary, just 'cause you're an artist doesn't mean you don't have to comply here. SH

[Georgia Bard]

Oh my willth it menDS ...

:=) Gary Swancey

[nycnpbbkr]

Now someone is soppose to post and claim a SI grub at this two hundred post. Then these SI people run to one of the many grub hall of fame threads and proudly boast of their feat.

I got the SI playbook the last time the circus came through town.

[nycnpbbkr]

Does a kid who just graduated from Wharton B. School (and actually believes he knows his ass from a hole in the ground) come out now and tally the votes?

This SI stuff is killing me.

[Poet]

You're breakin' my heart, Gary. -g

[Georgia Bard]

This is on topic and should be carefully reviewed by everyone. Bob got Kudos on these two posts. I think if given enough time he will show he is not trying to recreate SI here.

http://www.investorshub.com/beta/read_msg.asp?message_id=101681

http://www.investorshub.com/beta/read_msg.asp?message_id=75548

These are both Kudos to me.

:=) Gary Swancey

[Poet]

BADBOB,

Aw, don't try to pull the wool over my eyes with that wordy explanation! Every bleating heart OED-phile knows it's "zealously".

If you think I'll slink sheepishly away from this one, ewe're wrong. I'm right and there ain't mutton you can say about it.

[e-mail]

post #1

[Was (Bob)]

We're not planning to charge anytime soon. Brad and Jeff nailed it: Critical mass first.

post 3

[Was (Bob)]

It's my great pleasure to point out the misuse of the word "jealously" in your post. A grand and rare pleasure, as a matter
of fact.

The word "zealously" is the generally used adverb in that context.

I would expect it to be a great pleasure to encounter a mistake in any of my missives that wasn't purely typographical or dyslexic, as it's a rare occurence, given how zealous I am about correct use of the language, including punctuation.

But you'll have to seek that pleasure elsewhere, as I believe that either word would have been correct in that sentence, but "jealously" was the intended word, and the one that fully conveyed the intended message.

http://www.dictionary.com/cgi-bin/dict.pl?term=jealous

1.Fearful or wary of being supplanted
4.Vigilant in guarding something
5.Intolerant of disloyalty or infidelity; autocratic

Don't let it happen again or I shall trample your flower bed.

Bah

or

Baaaaah

or

Ewe wouldn't!

or

post 2

[Was (Bob)]

Taken in the context of the sentence that immediately followed it, I meant basically that no members of the site whose names don't appear on my paycheck can "oust" me, though some would apparently love to.

post 1

[JXM]

Posted on SI

http://www.siliconinvestor.com/stocktalk/msg.gsp?msgid=15790297
To:bob who wrote (1783)
From: Jorj X. McKie Friday, May 11, 2001 7:46 PM
View Replies (2) / Respond to of 1812

I agree with you at a certainly level. I believe that jenna has the right to keep us miscreants off of her thread. For whatever reason. I do not believe that she needs to justify it. Since Market Gems is a commercial venture operating on the message boards, I believe that there has to be a forum where it can be scrutinized. This is relevant whether it is iHub or SI. Right now, if you start a thread that is specifically to hold the magnifying glass over market Gems, it is promptly deleted. If Market Gems is not willing to allow a thread to exist that puts them under scrutiny, then I do not believe that Market Gems has the right to keep us miscreants off of the main thread.
does that make sense?

[Joemoney]

Immediately Humble Unto Bob (new thread)

while we are promoting boards, i will throw you guys this one. I need 2 directors to help me who are not in favor of Bob. please PM me.

Here is the thread: http://www.investorshub.com/beta/board.asp?board_id=624

Joe

[smchan]

Shameless plug follows...

I've created a thread for "real" investors.

http://www.investorshub.com/beta/board.asp?board_id=623

Consider this a pointer to a stock related post.

Sam

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[Vendit]

and I disagree with Vendit...this site wont go where Matt presumably wants it to go if he starts charging right now..
but Vendit can go ahead and pay his 9.99 anyway...

however my wallet has cobwebs on it and i aint ready to open it up yet...

I have the solution to your wallet problem.

For now........First ID is free. All others are $20 a pop. Wouldn't this solve your problem with IHUB charging?

My question to you is serious and I really would like your opinion.

TIA

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Reid

[Vendit]

You can take you complaints to the CoB or the director(s) and if that doesn't get a result then you can take it to Admin...so "the citizens" still get to have say.

You are 100% on target. The bottom line is that everyone who posts on IHUB and follows TOU gets an evenhanded decision from IHUB Admin. If a chairman starts a thread, which is noncompliant with TOU, then that chairman is liable and can be held accountable.

Reid

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[Joemoney]

who's alias is "Gary Swancey"'s? he wrote that amazing article.

joe

[Seahag]

You can take you complaints to the CoB or the director(s) and if that doesn't get a result then you can take it to Admin...so "the citizens" still get to have say. SH

Post#@

[Seahag]

So, is this an honor system? How does the director know if you really posted on a stock board? I understand why you wouldn't want to..might get a lot of people that don't belong there and just coming over to pester you.

Now, I'm giving myself a warning...I posted here in the 6:00-12:00 time slot and didn't make a stock related post in that same period. Had nothing of value to post at that time and then I fell asleep. I'm covered this time slot....already made my posts.

Post#1

[Poet]

Dear BADBOB,

It's my great pleasure to point out the misuse of the word "jealously" in your post. A grand and rare pleasure, as a matter of fact.

The word "zealously" is the generally used adverb in that context.

Don't let it happen again or I shall trample your flower bed.

Post #1 (lots o' market-relateds on the OBOX this AM)

[Lola]

The iHub model is more like our own government except that the citizens don't get to vote.


Doesn't this negate the concept of a self-policing community? How can a community be considered self-policed if only a minority of the people are in charge of the policing and the citizens don't have any say in who those people are?

I would think this would be a recipe for a system that is massively corrupt. I'm sure that was not the intention behind the concept but you must consider human nature.


Lola:)

[Was (Bob)]

In the case of SI you had at one time Bob being the single policeman acting to govern the entire SI community, a task that even Bob will likely admit was near impossible to do. I’m sure his workload was huge.

That's part of the issue that CoB addresses for me, but not all of it.

To continue with your government analogy, on SI I was the King rather than the Fed Government. It was, as I'd described it before publicly, a "benign dictatorship".

It's automatically assumed by nearly everyone on the planet that anybody in a role of dictatorship likes being in that role and jealously guards it.

Not the case. I filled that role because that was the model for the site (we hadn't thought of this model) and if I wanted to benefit the site, that was the role that was available. Arguably fine, since it was a benign dictatorship.

But I wasn't happy with it.

Revisit the 3D-world dictatorship analogy. Or even the old monarchies. I suspect the King's life wasn't all featherbeds and caviar. As the only legal authority in the land, he had to decide the outcome of every disagreement. One minute he's deciding the sentence for an accused murderer and the next he's deciding what to do about someone's sheep trampling someone else's flowers. And every morning, there's a long line of these cases waiting for his personal attention.

Yuck!

And the 2D version doesn't even get a featherbed and can't afford caviar. And the concubines *still* haven't shown up.

The iHub model is more like our own government except that the citizens don't get to vote. Someone *owns* this particular country and decides who's the president. But there are no immigration/emigration laws aside from the Terms of Use. The citizens vote with their citizenship.

In this model, I don't have to deal with sheep treading on flowers. I just handle the bigger things. Each township has people who deal with trampling tups.

I like this model not only because it should *dramatically* reduce my workload (eventually), but because I don't have to be the only person making every single judgment call.

[Lisa aka Viperchick]

HA!
and who said you couldnt be funny

Post 4

Dont chastise me this time..I remembered the number
and I aint tellin' you the location of my stock related post

and I disagree with Vendit...this site wont go where Matt presumably wants it to go if he starts charging right now..
but Vendit can go ahead and pay his 9.99 anyway...

however my wallet has cobwebs on it and i aint ready to open it up yet...

[Neenny]

Seemed there was a lot more dinging going on over at SI by lots of people for lots of things...

I am still working on my reply to the car salesman/car purchasing analogy. (it does not work for me)

Seems to be just a matter of who's head is on the chopping block at the present moment!

This is 1.

<edit 1>(btw...if I post my link to my stock related comment after my 10 minute edit window.....does that count as another reply and do I then need to make another stock related post.....(could be come a vicious circle!!!))

<edit 2>Note to Poet. Thanks for backing me up here the other day. I appreciated it. But I must say when I read the reply Joemoney posted to me.....asking if I was "Bob's attorney" I honestly burst out laughing. Seems to me, that my post must have made some sense regarding the fact that it didn't matter who or how many elections were held to determine who should or should not be IHub administration, because the only retort they had for me, was to ask if I was Bob's attorney!! Felt like victory to me!!!

<edit 3>Note to Bob......don't forget to put the check in the mail for my services...<wink>

[smchan]

What rant?
http://www.investorshub.com/beta/read_msg.asp?message_id=100284



Sam

post 3

today's stock related stuff may be found in OBOX

[Lisa aka Viperchick]

Hey Lisa Chan....

you gotta wait for the edit window to be up before going on a rant....people might change their posts..you know like to include the post number...(i originally forgot mine in my first post in case anyone thinks I am talking about anything else btw)

Lisa Lisa

Post 3

[smchan]

Thanks for the compliment, Lisa.

Sam
post 2

[Lisa aka Viperchick]

you forgot to number your post


rules are rules, big guy


post 2

[Lisa aka Viperchick]

Glad to see Vendit didn't get him fired...

"sammy" is a good guy and has an interesting ability to take crap...unlike me and tim who shoot from the hip...hahahahaha

post 1

[Poet]

It was Patti Smith, original punk rocker, artist, friend of the late Robert Mapplethorpe. She's now 53 and she was great. the consummate rocker.

Pac man? Hey, I still remember PONG. -g

post #1

[smchan]

Patti Smith... At first I thought of the artist from the 80's, but I think that's Patti Smyth (you know "bang bang I am the warrior!"). She opened for Styx a couple years ago. Did you enjoy her show?

I am child of the 80's in case you can't tell. Did I tell you about the Pac Man machine I'm restoring in my garage?

Sam
PS Thanks for the praise.

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[occams_razor]

Making friends and influencing people no matter where you go, eh? Joe, you are my hero.

[Vendit]

Hi Sam

"I suggest we layoff"

I agree to agree with you. :8-) Sometimes I use absurdity in order to drive home a point and in my doing so will many times appear to be brash. (did I say appear? <g>) I apologize to you.

I have to say that Matt's vision that you are seeing played out on this forum takes some getting use to. It is so hard for most of us, including myself, to shake the mentality of ultimate authority that we were used to on SI.

I openly admit to have been privately and politely corrected by Matt when I misunderstood CoB. Once I finally did understand it fully it made perfect sense.

Think of IHUB as the United States. In this country we have the ultimate authority called the federal government. (IH Admin)

The IHUB federal government has set up a constitution called (TOU).

In the case of SI you had at one time Bob being the single policeman acting to govern the entire SI community, a task that even Bob will likely admit was near impossible to do. I’m sure his workload was huge.

Here at IHUB just as SI or any forum you cannot get all people to agree on TOU so Matt has allowed his so called United States to also have sub governing powers.

Think of each thread as a single state (CoB) and it's Chairman as the state governor who has governing powers over that thread. Think of the Chairman's directors the cabinet members who share in governing the thread.

Each Chairman (state) can set up his/her own set of TOU as long as they fall within IHUB's TOU. Indeed a chairman can delete a post if it violates the Chairman's TOU, which has to follow IHUB TOU.

When properly applied this takes a huge workload off of Bob because the Chairmen do much of the work that Bob was doing on SI. Bob is still the ultimate authority but now he does not have to deal with as many issues because they can be dealt with at the thread level.

A director or chairman can remove a post, a chairman can remove a director, and a chairman can be removed or replaced by Bob. See how easy it is to compare the sharing of governing IHUB to our own USA?

Everyone is accountable for their actions and I have found that it is the few who don't like IHUB share one or both of the following two things.

1- They don't like to be held accountable or dislike authority.

2- They truly don't understand what Cob is as I have described above and do not bother to read and understand IHUB TOU and the CoB concept within TOU.

Post 1

My stock related post: The NASDAQ seems to be forming a short term top as it fell through short term support yesterday.


Reid

[JXM]

actually, you got dinged over on SI for making stock related posts.

[Was (Bob)]

Note to self: Caught up verifying stock-related posts up to this point. Feeling sad. Chastised by Director for not following thread rules. Pouting. Depressed. Director seems to be doing fine without my interference. Feeling useless. And relieved.



<g>


Oh, and post 1

[Poet]

Hi Sam,

I just returned from seeing Patti Smith in concert-- one of the original rock chicks-- and checked in. You've had a busy day as director here and I think you're doing a very good job.

[smchan]

That said, we both are way off topic, so I suggest you layoff. (I certainly will henceforth - at least in this thread.)

Those were poorly chosen words on my part. What I meant is "I suggest we layoff" because we are off topic. I did say "I suggest you layoff" and "I certainly will (layoff)" which logically meant "we" (at least in my mind) but after reading it again, I still think it was very poorly phrased. I'm sorry about that, because it's easy for me to see how the statement might've been considered a threat or had an air of arrogance. By the time I had reconsidered, it was too late to edit.

Sam

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[Vendit]

That said, we both are way off topic, so I suggest you layoff. (I certainly will henceforth - at least in this thread.)

Sam -=5

After reading "that said" I will write you off as another detractor who is not worth a "peope mark" on IHUB.

Re read this:
http://www.investorshub.com/beta/read_msg.asp?message_id=99851


Take care and best wishes from me to you.


Reid

[smchan]

Great points there Reid. The TOU says "a personal attack is defined as: Posting false information about a poster that can not be backed up by a link or other means of quick verification."

Here's your link for verification:
http://www.investorshub.com/beta/read_msg.asp?message_id=99832
where you said I won't agree to disagree because I'm 100% correct.

Many people would argue that such debate tactics are self-serving, self-righteous, and arrogant. Therefore, I stand by my statement that you're also 100% full of yourself.

That said, we both are way off topic, so I suggest you layoff. (I certainly will henceforth - at least in this thread.)

Sam

post 6

[Vendit]

Bob

Your director is not following CoB which falls under TOU.
http://www.investorshub.com/beta/board.asp?board_id=617

All rules of the site apply. So no personal attacks, even if they're directed at me.
http://www.investorshub.com/beta/read_msg.asp?message_id=99835

smchan says: You're also 100% full of yourself.
Which implies a personal attack and may also subject him to being removed as a director of this board as well as post deletion.

reg: You agree that you will not use iHub for illegal purposes including posting information you know to be false, unlawful, libelous, harassing, profane, abusive, threatening, vulgar, or otherwise objectionable. This includes personal attacks posted on the boards.

This material will be subject to various deletion processes designed by iHub.
Duh rules:
http://www.investorshub.com/beta/Terms.asp

A Personal Attack is defined as:

·Posting false information about a poster that can not be backed up by a link or other means of quick verification;

·Calling another poster names or being vulgar;

·Not staying on topic with the current investment discussion, but instead focusing on an individual poster;

cc: IHUB Admin

Post 5 or 2

Ps: smchan thinks that I am timed out of my edit window as his additional personal attack post shows this.

http://www.investorshub.com/beta/read_msg.asp?message_id=99860

Many people would argue that such debate tactics are self-serving, self-righteous, and arrogant. Therefore, I stand by my statement that you're also 100% full of yourself.


Please add another personal attack to smchan's tou violations.



Reid

Date: 5/10/2001 10:53:29 PM (ET)

[smchan]

I won't agree to disagree because I'm 100% correct.

You're also 100% full of yourself.

I asked you why you are here on IHUB posting?

I assume that's a typo and you meant to say "I ask you why you are here on IHUB posting?" because there are certainly no questions in your first response to me:
http://www.investorshub.com/beta/read_msg.asp?message_id=99823

I answered the question already. Yesterday I think in this thread. I chose to post here b/c I may find something of value. I also said I don't like the CoB model but I agree to abide by it in exchange for the privelege of posting here. If I change my mind, I will ask my id to be deleted and (of course) stop posting.

Sam

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