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My mistake I see it now. Thanks
I did or provide the number you are really wanting.
Did you get my message request about making that MILVD post a sticky?
Please?
Glad to help you pass the time away!
Well.... There goes another a day or two of my life reading..... LOL
Nice find!!! Impressive even.
Thanks for sharing.
Good research link on coronavirus
https://www.linksmedicus.com/news/coronavirus-disease-covid-19-updates/
That's daily.....not total....usa will far surpass anybody else's soon....
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1. There is no need to close businesses at ALL...OR have this quarantine bullshit......as long as masks are being worn.
2. The only exception is restaurants and bars. Because you can't wear a mask/drink at the same time.....They can do take out....
3. Unless this is taken seriously by everybody, it will keep on spreading.
4. How can something so fucking simple be turned into something so fucking complicated???......lolololol........
5. And a surgical mask has very little resistance to breathing...fwiw
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Ohh no
Pompeo certifies Hong Kong is no longer autonomous from China, jeopardizing billions of dollars in trade
https://apple.news/AuuJee7NRQmi9FaxT6NU8Jg
Mike, I agree that both of those are likely under reporting. I have a feeling Mexico is also worse than is currently reported.
Been expecting this for 4-6 weeks now.
Today's news
Brazil's Daily Coronavirus Death Toll Surpasses That of U.S.
https://ih.advfn.com/p.php?pid=nmona&article=82542215
I think India may be next.
Lets take that to the extreme, like China did in Wuhan.
They made going outside period, illegal, because "Because you could infect, or kill someone."
"I see NO difference between those 2 statements from a legal standpoint."
I am not saying people should not wear masks, BTW. But if one has COVID19, leaves the house they have have spread it in, the COVID19 can be on their shoes and cloths.
But I know from experience, I can only wear mask for limited amounts of time, with out triggering asthma attacks.
Eating out at restaurants or drinking is not possible with out dropping the mask for short periods to eat or drink. But they are opening them back up now. I think that is going to start wave 2 now.
Looks like the lights are going at GE.
"GE Sells Lightbulb Business for About $250 Million
General Electric Co. is getting out of the business of making lightbulbs, selling a unit that defined the company for nearly a century but had become one of its last consumer products."
All they do is destroy businesses, start ups, and feed the vultures and bankster sharks. They should be illegal like the use be.
So MM-CDEL is also a hedge fund shorting firm.
That answers many questions. They were the ones shorting $MILV that I trapped and made cover 2 times.
Shorting should be considered manipulating the markets IMHO.
Sir, I must interject. Simply put, our president says giving ourselves a nice dose of disinfectant will keep us clean and healthy. It shows promising results! Who needs a mask.
By the way, don’t give yourself or take any disinfectants. You would likely die. Wear a damn mask where you can. To me, it is about protecting my family from others with questionable hygiene.
Drunk Driving is illegal, because there is a chance you could hurt/kill people.
Going out in Public w/o a mask should also be illegal. Because you could infect, or kill someone.
I see NO difference between those 2 statements from a legal standpoint.
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I would like to see more info, or a study on why folks with Type O blood not seem to die from COVID19, or even have real bad problems when they get it.
There must be some good, important clue there as well.
Are you aware of the gene defect that does not allow a lot of people to use (activate) Folic acid? They do not have the gene to make it active.
There are newer active versions of Folic acid (...methyl...-Folate is a short name for it, LOL) and B-6 (P-5-P), that out now for those with these issues.
There is also a newer better Phospholipid-Curcumin (doctor's Best....) That makes regular Tumeric and curcumin look like junk food now.
I take them all, especially Methyl-folate since I am on Methotrexate and have not been checked for any gene issues yet.
References:
https://www.poison.org/articles/chloroquine-hydroxychloroquine
https://lupus.bmj.com/content/6/Suppl_1/A217
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3760572/
https://www.physiciansweekly.com/covid-19-va-study-points-to-increased-mortality-with-hydroxychloroquine/
One think is for sure the Use and misuse, and risks and rewards of HDCC is complex story.
Tell that to the CDC, LOL.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3760572/
https://www.physiciansweekly.com/covid-19-va-study-points-to-increased-mortality-with-hydroxychloroquine/
People should be screened for health issues that might make it dangerous for them to use.
The verdict is not in, and is mixed on HDCQ use for COVID19
But about 8 weeks ago some MD's got desperate, went renegade (not peer reviewed, LOL,) and tried an IV drip on critical patients that needed to go on ventilators (Death rate was 80% at that time for COVID19 patients going on ventilators) and they used Vit-C and Vit-B1, Thiamine, and some steroid, Hydrocortisone.
5 days later all those pages left the hospital alive.
https://www.worldhealth.net/news/3-us-hospitals-use-ivs-vitamin-c-other-low-cost-readily-available-drugs/
That is the real story getting buried in the trumped up BS about HDCQ IMHO.
Well that is not the whole story. Once released by mouth, it can tracked around on shoes. Hospitals found out the hard way what I could have told them. All the hard work they were doing with massive PPE tech, was ignoring shoes, and they were tracking covid19 from the floors in ICUs around the hospitals and infecting others.
Also they are now testing the #COVID19 found in waste water drain pipes feeding the waste water systems, to determine if any of the COVID19 is still infectious.
I watching for those results. They will need to do a lot of testing, as in many cases it may not be and in others in might be infectious.
Picture home owner Aerobic under ground systems. Maybe >1 mil in the USA feeding above ground sprinklers where Home owners are not keeping up with chlorine and other maintenance to insure the sprinklers that recycle the water are not spraying live COVID19 into the air in a 20 mph wind.
I have been warning authorities I work with of that risk for 2 months now.
So I beg differ with the "ONLY" part for now on this:
"Bottom Line: It ONLY spreads by mouth. To stop it, cover the mouth. "
There was a reason China and other Asian countries where fogging and spraying every surface indoors and outdoors like mad men, as we saw on line in Jan and Feb while Trump and fools ignored it and did nothing. Neither did Europe for that matter.
Asia had already learned the lessons from the earlier SARs that had a 20% death rate years earlier.
But thanks again for the info and opp to share and debate the evidence!!!
The current closed case death rate is 13% worldwide.
Since no one was testing people for COVID19 that died of strokes (strokes caused by Covid19) before or after, there is major under count of COVID19 deaths.
250 people died at home one day in New York that broke all records, for deaths(3-4 weeks ago?) even for known covid19 hospital deaths that day, that died of low blood oxygen (caused by asymptomatic Covid19 infections that destroyed the lung cells ability to absorb oxygen) and a 2018 NIH study shows that low blood oxygen causes a Protein S malfunction that leads to massive blood clotting that leads to strokes and brain death.. heart attacks, with no pre stroke COVID19 symptoms.
They died before they could get to the car and go a hospital.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
Flu deaths are typically .1% max
>1% is not 13%
It is way worse than the flu and many people are just starting to deal with all sorts of long term damage from it, that lived, we only just now starting to hear about.
It 100X worse than the flu
Just like China, CDC is being gagged by Trump to hid info.
Unlike China, MDs and MD virologists, and Professors on the Hospital front lines are reporting live info on twitter.
That is how I am staying 2-3 months ahead of the Faux news crap, getting my data and info direct and downloading reading real research papers, new (pre-Publication) and old.
I have been part of peer review teams, and been a published author in related fields. So I do not need others to peer review stuff for me, LOL
Wrong - there is a genetic risk, and not testing for it is medical negligence, but in the U.S. we just have drugs prescribed on the basis that most people don't get sick, and it's your tough luck if you have bad genes...
This genetic risk is common knowledge:
https://israeltruthtimes.blogspot.com/2020/04/coronavirus-part-vii-chabad-md-zevs.html
Bullshit. It's been used on millions of patients over the years with ZERO fatalities..
Go read the studies
You can swear at me and bully all you want, but don't attribute words to me that I didn't say. You tell me to "go read the studies"?? How about you go read my post again? Not once, ANYWHERE, do I say that HCQ caused a single fatality. Your point is meaningless. A drug can cause harm without killing you. Of course you know that, as you're clearly no dummy. But it doesn't fit your agenda so you paint this black and white....death or no death. HCQ may cause issues for people with pre-existing heart conditions. For anyone to say "take it....what do you have to lose?" is irresponsible at best. Everyone should know the pros and cons of the drugs they're taking, the contraindications, etc. And we certainly didn't need hundreds of thousands of healthy people between ages 18-35 buying up the supply of HCQ, possibly creating a lack of inventory for those who truly need it.
Thanks Mike.....If only more people would do some research before spouting off at the mouth......lol
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Bullshit. It's been used on millions of patients over the years with ZERO fatalities..
Go read the studies
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I would expect that governments would have strong evidence that the virus is easily transmitted before shutting down the economy. I haven't seen any evidence that it is worse than the flu.
From the list of papers at the bottom of your first link:
Bottom Line: It ONLY spreads by mouth. To stop it, cover the mouth.
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I watched the video you posted. Interesting watch. Here's a recent study from China that was done on patients with only mild to moderate symptoms from Covid-19. No difference between the two groups as far as benefit (standard of care PLUS HydroxyChloroquine vs standard of care alone), but significantly more adverse events in the HCQ group. The web site posting these results isn't mainstream media. The clinical trial was done in China however, which I'm sure casts a shadow over the results in some people's minds.
https://www.bmj.com/content/369/bmj.m1849
"In conclusion, we have estimated that viral shedding of patients with laboratory-confirmed COVID-19 peaked on or before symptom onset, and a substantial proportion of transmission probably occurred before first symptoms in the index case. More inclusive criteria for contact tracing to capture potential transmission events 2 to 3 days before symptom onset should be urgently considered for effective control of the outbreak."
In other words masks can save lives.
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-020-0869-5
Was this research from China? (Edit) Read the bottom of this post)
"Exposed" How???
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32405162/
"Might"??? LOL "Some" LOL
"conclude that the infectivity of some asymptomatic SARS-CoV-2 carriers might be weak. "
A single asymptomatic person test? How long had they had it????
Newer research shows that about 24 hours before the onset of symptoms they can spread it with ease in a room full of people in choir practice by simply singing, newer more authoritative data.
"No severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) infections was detected in 455 contacts by nucleic acid test."
"All patients also wore masks except for eating or drinking and were admitted to infectious department for medical isolation"
"In total, 196 family members were enrolled. The situation on wearing masks was the same as that in patients. "
They all wore masks!!!! While "exposed"
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7219423/
I am going to share this while I have it handy.
https://www.life.ca/naturallife/1002/rev_up_your_immunity_naturally.htm
"with not a word being said about immune support."
I hear Type O blood folks laugh at Covid19
Still not sure what mine is.
I think Trump has Coal in his veins.
"Brings the phrase "lies, damn lies, and statistics" to mind"
I hear that statistics confirm that
Marriage is the major cause of divorce, and going to a hospital is the major cause of death
But I hear it is all just circumstantial evidence like they use to send people to death row, and has not been peer reviewed.
"I don't believe there is any point in discussing these models or death rates because the statistics they are founded on are totally random."
Good sample sets should be random for may kinds of studies. Random is often good, Like the force, it can be good or bad. In some cases, they should not be random.
People are dying because of COVID19 infections, we know this, fact.
We know, that we do not know, what we do not know. So we look for ideas in data, to decide what data to collect next.
But using what data we have, and using all of it, is how one MD in the UK figured out low Vit D3 was a major cause of COVID19 deaths. Maybe the major cause?
"Who Knew"? LOL
An MD in the UK on Youtube shared on twitter knew, 8 weeks ago.
My research indicates the lack of enough Vit D-3 and zinc is killing most of them.
Vit C helps a lot too, and it seems D-3, Zinc and C are all part of the immune system control and creation of the long term antibodies battle that actually kills COVID19 (in part using zinc?) that was missed until recently.
The Immune suppressants can stop a cytokine storm, but the next question is can the body make long term antibodies fast enough and enough quantities before lung cell damage causes low blood oxygen leading to Protein B going ape shit and cause blood clots (2018 NIH study I shared about 6 weeks ago) that cause the strokes that are killing the people.
I'd really love to know how many of those dying from COVID are actually dying from Humira and other immune compromising drugs...
But we are nagged about masks with not a word being said about immune support.
Personal theory, they want to thin the baby boomer herd because they are afraid treating the diseases of aging with make it harder for the Uber Klasse to milk the government for fake services.
I believe the Aussies are working on solving that problem humanely along with Anavex.
Glad to hear it!!!!
Same here. "I take a long laundry list of supplements" Mine is up to about 40 or more now.
But I do not take any all in one versions, I take each supplement, like each B vitamin by itself in doses I Interactively arrived at the right amounts for me and my age and RA.
Been working for me for 40 years. In fact I beat RA for 35 years before it was diagnosed as RA and not just arthritis.... and I did it with zero Rx drugs the first 35 years and no joint damage.
A corona-virus cousin of COVID19 nearly offed me in 2014, when it inflamed my Thyroid gland and turned my RA into un-measurable RA factor numbers in the blood tests.
MD's were lost for 8 weeks, and I finally figured it out. I was fighting 4 things all at once. Many MD's think in one dimension, and do not look at the whole picture.
I was Fighting a virus, and near Pneumonia that led to RA off the charts, 80 lbs of muscle and fat loss in 12 weeks due to Hyperthyroidism and RA/Immune system was attacking the inflamed Thyroid while the Thyroid was created and dumping excess hormones that exhausted the Adrenal gland, burned up muscle and fat assets, Pain killers weaken my gut and capillaries to where I was leaking iron from Hemoglobin where it did not belong (Iron is a free radical Initiator...) and sent me into a tail spin. Could not Sit up, could not hold or lift a cup of fluid to drink with out both hands, looked an Auschwitz survivor after 12 weeks. Antibiotics failed...
Doctors had not clue and did not think I would live.
Well I did, and I figured it out and beat it. All but the RA, that seems to be hereditary and so far turned on for life now, and has me taking a weekly low dose methotrexate dose to keep in under control (had to, to get off the steroid)
But rest assured, that is working in part because of all the Supplements I take, and diet control etc.
So I am right there with you. People need to learn enough to help them help themselves improve and maintain their health.
While My brother added an MD in the his 40's to his triple PhD Physics degrees, my Mother was a tried and true Homeopath and fought RA into her 80s with out the help of MDs.
They all have a place. A dentist 30 years ago died of a latex allergy, so nothing is 100% safe, not even peanuts!!!!
But the Mainline Medical profession is more about profit than health these days.
But the Cataract surgery they do is awesome!!!! I was legally blind in 2016 because of the steroid used to get me be back on my feet.
So we have common ground!!!!
Actually many of the things I take are inspired by my reading of testimony from other Floxxed (FQ) victims. I also read about cellular function as part of my Anavex DD and this helps me understand my own medical issues.
I take a long laundry list of supplements because I have mitochondrial issues from being poisoned with Cipro on 2/25/18. I was just relating the part that I bulk up on to avoid the flu.
Echinacea is a Native American cure, and they've just recently decided upon the MOA. It improves immunity through the gut. I can't remember exactly how it was phrased.
So do you only read and review so called proven and pier reviewed information?
I suspect not?
But I have no problem point out they are not pier reviewed yet.
I do have a problem with the way CDC discounts useful information on Vitamins and supplements I know work, simply to boost Toxic drug sales and deadly Rx drug sales by the Pharmaceutical Industry and Food industry that own the FDA.
MD's can be very useful and can save lives, but too many of them do not know shit about the vitamin and herb supplements, and they do much harm at times discounting their value.
The issue of debate should be useful doses, and while NIH studies have done much to prove the value of higher than FDA RDA vitamin doses, the FDA refuses to catch up, because sick people boost the GDP and drug sales and profits.
Yes, the average moron on the street may overdose on some vitamins, that is also true of drugs. Better to take too much Vit C, get diarrhea and live than to overdose on Pain killers???
Morons will be morons, sad to say.
I too have used and preached the use of Vit C and Zinc for fighting and avoiding flu and soar throats (for 3.5 decades in my case) And no I am not peer reviewed on those opinions LOL.
We have some things in common
" I have avoided the flu for decades by using Echinacea, C, and Zinc at the first sign of a sore throat or any thing that made me believe a cold or flu could be coming on. One must realize with Echinacea that it should only be taken for a week or two and then stopped for a couple weeks to be effective. Taking it constantly is useless. "
I am only just starting to read up this month on Echinacea. Thanks for that Info!
I assume you are using Vit D-3 as well now?
I take 9000 IU / day of D-3, the amount recommended by my RA MD
"After the novel coronavirus emerged in China, Korea Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (KCDC) raced to develop its tests and cooperated with diagnostic manufacturers to develop commercial test kits. The first test was approved on 7 February, when the country had just a few cases, and distributed to regional health centers. Just 11 days later, a 61-year-old woman, known as “Case 31,” tested positive. She had attended 9 and 16 February services at the Shincheonji megachurch in Daegu, about 240 kilometers southeast of Seoul, already feeling slightly ill. Upward of 500 attendees sit shoulder to shoulder on the floor of the church during 2-hour services, according to local news reports.
The country identified more than 2900 new cases just in the next 12 days, the vast majority Shincheonji members. On 29 February alone, KCDC reported more than 900 new cases, bringing the cumulative total to 3150 and making the outbreak the largest by far outside mainland China. "
So lets all got to church with out masks and pray???
Not me.
"A COVID-19 superspreader unknowingly infected 52 people with the new coronavirus at a choir practice in Mount Vernon, Washington, in early March, leading to the deaths of two people, a new Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) report finds.
The choir practice happened on March 10, roughly two weeks before the state's Democratic Gov. Jay Inslee issued the March 23 "stay home, stay healthy" executive order, which barred social gatherings and nonessential travel as a way to stem COVID-19 infections.
While the choir members took a few precautions at the practice, such as not hugging or shaking hands, these measures fell short of protecting them from the virus. If anything, this event shows "the importance of physical distancing, including maintaining at least 6 feet [about 1.8 meters] between persons, avoiding group gatherings and crowded places, and wearing cloth face coverings in public settings where other social-distancing measures are difficult to maintain during this pandemic," according to the report, published online May 12 in the CDC's Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report."
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