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Let me explain something to you all in the USA
Right now the Market Makers in the USA own all the shares, every single share has to go through them, bought or sold.
What does that mean, it means Tom sells 5000 shares and John buys 5000 shares, these shares are siting with market maker so nothing really happened other then the market maker just made $100
Also the Market Maker can choose to sell your shares Naked meaning they don’t own the stock but they can trade it.
So Market Maker sells 5000 shares to John for 6c then brings the price down and John sells his 5000 shares and the Market Maker makes another $100 plus the difference from the sell and buy back.
Then there is the big money maker for them and that is to lend shares out to those that want to short the stock. $50 to lend the shares out plus 2.8%.
So John calls up and shorts 5000 shares then there is the market maker takes the share price down another 5 pips and John rings up again and say “set me up with another 5000 shares please” thats another $50 and the market maker takes the stock up 10 pips and John sells out. Thats another $50 plus the 2.8% and also the loss on selling which is another $50.
They hold the shares, they own every single share in the USA because they keep your shares for you.
Now for the Big Bang here for the Market Makers and that is they always drive the share price up and down by buying and selling the shares to themselves giving you suckers opportunity to buy on the up and when they have sold you enough they but and sell the stock down to get the shares back from you. Thats the biggest driver for them to make money.
The retail investors are panicking when they have sold stock is going down and selling, then when a rather large buy goes through (instigated by the market maker) the retail go bonkers and rush back to buy. Rinse and Repeat and the market maker pockets all the profits while all that trade in and out loose money.
This will only stop once DTR is truly listed on the OTCQB, had a conversation with one of the directors today and they thought of doing something like putting the US shares on suspension but not the ASX but they found out yesterday that they can’t do that.
I really feel sorry for you guys paying $50 a transaction when we here pay $2.50 no matter how big or small the transaction.
In my opinion this is all the fault of the company and it their haste to get on the OTCQB they forgot about the DCE part of the listing requirements.
They phoned all the market makers in the US and asked them to consolidate all the US shares into the DCE and the company would pay all 5 of them $25,000 each but they refused to that and who would blame them it’s like taking away their meal ticket.
The Chairman is down over $7.5 million from the high
The CEO is down over $5.5 million from the high
The rest of the Directors are down over $1.5 million from the high
I am down over $2 million from the high
But I have been able to play with $250,000 and have reduced that to about $600,000.
Will keep trading it for 3 pips each time at lease 3 times a day
Today
Traded 80 million shares
Opened at 9.3c
Closed at 7.9c
VWAP 8.5c
Trade 1
I took 2 million shares today in ATX which is INNMF in the US
Took 2,000,000 at 17c
Sold 1,500,000 at 22c
Made $100,000
Trade 2
I took 2 million shares today in ATX which is INNMF in the US
Took 2,000,000 at 19c
Sold 2,000,000 at 21.5c
Made $50,000
Still hold 500,000 shares that I bought at 17c and the stock closed at 23.5c
Which means I am up $32,500
Looking to sell all 500,000 on Tuesday at 40c or 45c
So I would net another profit of $112,500
So when your down on a stock see if you can find a stock thats running and try to slowly claw back any of your losses.
I am more than happy to give you a heads up on some stocks that will run wild in your market that are Australian stocks, just let me know if you are interested to at least look at them and do your own DD.
mpt worried, we're long waiting on catalysts, going to add when prudent
will definitely look for an entry
INNMF
If you like to make 150% on your trade I recommend you take a good look at this stock.
DTR
Not a good day today being sold down by panicking holders that don’t have the stomachs for what the American brokers are doing to accumulate more shares for the inevitable announcement tomorrow or next week.
Even though it’s low trading volume and half are genuine sells by pranked holders, the other half are the American brokers selling the stock down to them selves. That my reading of the ASX board.
Add to that the Gold price is down $125 an ounce in the last 4 days as well.
Every gold stock is Australia is in the red over 5%
Plus this ridiculous war in the Middle East is just sucking the air of all trading boards all over the world.
G’day all
I couldn’t post it said I have reached my limits in posting.
Please just take a look at what this stock is going to do when your market opens, I have 750,000 at 6c and over 1 million options at 1c
The stock is INNMF
Market Cap just under $100 million and will explode past $1 billion if the next announcement is as positive as today’s. Announcement due in 2 to 4 weeks.
OZZ MAN I see you on the side lines tonight ,, hope all is well ,? any action there tonight ? If you didn't hear me the last time or the time before that ,, THANKS for all your time and contributions !! I hear the way you speak about this project from the heart like it is your own,,, protect and defend to the end ,,!!! appreciated mate .. GLTA
rheddle then we have folks in here in a few month that wish they could have bought in at 12c how do you like that .
Time for the co to let the plebs have a bit of fun following the next PR. The co has done well with the conversions to common that have been absorbed into the float and, by extension us with more $ to make progress with. The options holders have done well. We've got some folks in here that bought at 12c that could probably do with a nice run back into the teens without too much weight on the ask.
Bullshit?
I thought woke and DEI crap were dead?
Well maybe the Judge will end the XRP case tomorrow and we see some fun.
10:54a in Sydney. Any updates?
Our group has well over 50M Shares here and are 100% LONG.
no trading tomorrow. Juneteenth in the states
None at all 👍️
Funding should be coming very soon unless management found a way to blow it!
Simple as that. DoD and other Federal sources would throw money our way with the strong possibility stated by experts, the rare earth deposits at Colosseum may be the largest in the world.
For some investors it's a game of chicken. Funding hits, you're not getting .06 PPS. Maybe not under .10 cents.
Biggest risk is NOT being in the stock when the fireworks hit!!! imho! $dtref $dtr
Lower volume day. Seems to have been a pause in the conversions being sold into the float. The steady price action on a lower volume day shows me that people are content to hold at these levels and not give up their shares.
Over time, the bids should have to come up again if they want to squeeze out any sellers, notwithstanding any future option conversions that may come into play.
Couple of trading days left in the week. The update on the scan that is meant to come this week could just be for information, but could also have some tidbits in there. Any sniff of greater potential for REE is surely going to bring the buying volume as there will be eyes on this that aren't in yet and want to see for sure that there is REE there before bunging the big bucks in.
I still think of us as part of the early crew.
Not sure what to think about our boy Stephen…
Mate no hard feelings
It’s been a great back and forth with you today hope we have many many more over the coming years.
Signing off till the next time all, Shanghai Steve see you tomorrow mate the beers on you once you sell those 5000 shares of yours
Cheers
Zoox, the autonomous vehicle startup owned by Amazon, has opened a serial production facility in the San Francisco Bay Area.
The facility will help Zoox grow its robotaxi fleet, eventually producing 10,000 vehicles a year once it’s at full scale.
It is reported that to replace the worlds taxi fleets to EVs 5 million taxis will be needed
To replace All of Asias motorcycles to Electric it will need 98 million by 2035.
I can give so much more figures but I am busy thinking about that Shanghai Steve guy and his 5000 shares going down.
Things we do as due diligence before anything, go do the homework.
I will try to debunk all that
If MPs output is 1kg limit per day
And the demand is for 2kg
I am sure the Administration will not stop another supplier from producing the other 1kg
Wow it’s so easy to think outside the box
We will not joint venture sorry
We will toll process for the first two years as the two product mining will be sufficient to net us about $500 million.
Sorry can’t share with you the breakdown.
You are all trying to find whatever impediments you can think of to just put a spanned in the works.
But we don’t rose coloured glass and please too much what if in the failure box.
This needs time for the story to unfold, no one is saying this is as good as MP, we have been told via our geologists certain things.
We are very happy with what we know.
The cost of REE in every car
Budget EVs Motor Cost Range
$120-$200
Mid-Range EVs $250-$350
Premium/Luxury $400-$625
Commercial EVs $500-$800+
Ohh hello UPS, US Postal, Amazon, FedEx, DHL
How many delivery vans would you like
One Final Thought for Today....
My fear is the administration would like for mp and $dtref to work together for the best interest of the U.S. If $dtref displays an unwillingness or some resistance it could be possible that would affect $$$ coming to $dtref. Something is most definitely up that is for sure.
We were the first on the radar with the land restrictions removed and permits fast tracked. Just hope the administration doesn't feel like they have been dealt a blow with $dtref's stance to not work hand in hand with $mp in a JV scenario.
Like I stated something is up that we haven't heard anything. IMHO The administration would throw money at this to get the early studies completed without batting an eye. No need to exercise options for funds to cover costs. Something has put this on pause. I hope I am wrong but if I were them and breathed life into a company hoping to have some say especially when our National Security is at risk I could get a little irritated.
Have a great day all! Hoping for the best!
"We look forward to the upcoming Conference on Critical Materials and Minerals, to be chaired by the United States in Chicago, in September 2025"...hmmmm interesting🤔
Please Please Please go take the time to read this PLEASE
https://g7.canada.ca/en/news-and-media/news/g7-critical-minerals-action-plan
Ah I see. I am hoping for comparable to MP myself, but bigger is better without question! Time will tell...tick tock
I see that the G7 has drafted a framework for critical minerals which has been quoted as stating that minerals markets should reflect the real costs of responsible extraction, processing, and trade of critical minerals.
They also stated that they (The G7) “would swiftly protect our economic and national security.", which included anticipating critical minerals shortages, coordinating responses to deliberate market disruption, and diversifying mining, processing, manufacturing, and recycling.
Lets see how all this develops. Especially the 'Diversification' of mining and processing part.
Not today but you said in 3 years approx if there's a change in administration that they would be shuttered, not happening.
The higher the better
But thats if we get results of 10% to 15% which is higher than MPs 8%
My number is a wish and that will trigger the 50c, also the ore body if it’s above MPs then that will trigger the $1
Biden didn't cancel Trumps tariffs from 2018. Any administration change would find the political capital spent on canceling a project with strategic national importance would be considerable.
I'm missing the math here is higher not better here in the case of the heavy REE?
So true. Different mines from the past. Colosseum was a gold mine in the past not MP. We are still just a gold mine. Maybe by Halloween we will be tooling up for something else?
What I'm getting at as a penny player, this will be a news ever type of play on future potential.
We will not see any product for a good 12-18 months. I don't think anyone can compare this to MP today.
There are a lot of milestones that are going to be completed between now and 2 years. Each milestone looks likely to increase the value of what I am holding. Some of those milestones may immediately increase the value of what I hold several fold.
I advised you to sell mate, I got insider information from the CEO asking me to pass on his message for you to sell as the company will file for bankruptcy at 4;30pm today.
Hurry mate sell your 5,000 shares
I'm behind that 100%
I never ever said our deposit is richer
All I ever said is MPs best results are 8% heavy REE
All I said also if ours is 10% to 15% then we are “COMMAND WE ARE A GO FOR LAUNCH”
POS pos'ingNothing can move this turd anymore
So easy to spot them
So soooo soooooooo easy to spot the ones that want stock cheaper
They even drop down their buy order from .005 to .004 what an absolute joke that is as the difference on 1 million shares would be $1,000 and he ain’t buying 1 million shares
Brother he's not suggesting they'd do nothing in the interim, it'd simply be proccessed by way of tolling agreement. I truly believe until testing results are back, which will begin to trickle in next month and then the following months, we won't realize the true value here. That said gov't funding could come at any time. It's clearly in the works as evidenced by the recent meetings.
With those feeling I would also sell, but I know the story as all the early investors also know. The problem in today’s markets is only 9% of investors actually hold stock for more than 1 year.
You get all these brokers and banks and hedge funds upgrading and down grading stock almost by the hour.
Seriously I read at least 10 downgrades and 10 upgrades for Tesla a day from all these American institutions and that Jami Dimond guy or god give me the strength it’s rescission one day then it’s boom time the next.
You do and continue to do the DueDiligence and get to know the people who run the company by researching them before you even buy in and work out how long will this take.
If I was in your position I would get out once you make some good profit if you don’t feel comfortable in the transperancy of the company or the progress
fink MP has been operating under multiple administration's uninterrupted what make you think Colleseum wouldn't do the same, with the demand for rare earth, you sound like a short term trader.
That is a wise business plan. A plant will take 2 years to build. This is not like Parker Schafell moving his dirt washing rug to another site and running in 2 weeks.
Other than DOD funding, this thing has tons of time before we see anything. No wonder the options holders are dumping and diluting this.
I'm getting a sour feeling about this long term,
Give me the funding news and I'm good. I don't think this is a good battle to stay long on.
I believe the gov't wants to see the results from this latest round of testing and as would I as the company. If what Ozzie says is even half true, and these deposits are even richer than MP that puts us in prime position to negotiate even larger contracts etc.
Announcement made first week of May
Detailed Drilling Plan to be finalized within one month; drilling contractor quotations to
be sought immediately thereafter.
• U.S. Federal Funding for rare earth projects is actively supported through Defence
Production Act powers, new Development Finance Corporation (DFC) loan authorities,
and Export Import Bank (EXIM) programs.
• Recent Executive Orders and public statements signal growing federal willingness to
co-invest in critical mineral companies and accelerate domestic REE supply chains.
• Colosseum’s Rare Earth initiative aligns with U.S. push for domestic REE supply
chains, amid recent executive orders and bipartisan support for critical minerals.
• REE Program will be carried out contemporaneously with the planned gold feasibility
study.
Dateline only has 3 years then we see if JD makes it and the mine continues, or that weak ass Desantis. God forbid if the left get their next Manchurian candidate in, this mine is closed asap. If China wants it closed, the Dems will close it ...again!
Funding or no funding.
There is heaps more also 65km down the road DTR has something special, like I said do some homework and you will see why DTR will build its own plant.
If one were to just supply ore to MP for processing, there is only a certain amount of profit in that. It is by doing the processing and refining that one adds value, which increases the profits to shareholders. Sure, setting up the plant to do the processing incurs cost, but the long term value to shareholders is greater by investing in additional items to add value on top of just extracting ore and selling that on.
It's healthy to have a little squabble...
Even investors on the same team!
A dare a single person to go to this site and find me a single announcement where a single board member has sold a single share.
By law all board members must inform the ASX and ASIC of any sale or purchase or company allocation.
https://www.marketindex.com.au/asx/dtr?src=search-all
Please someone let me know so I can report the Board of Directors and I must of missed that announcement.
If I were MP...
And Dateline plans to create their own operation to process the elements to finished product, essentially become a competitor. Would you JV with them or even process a toll with them if their end goal is to compete directly with them. $MP has spent years developing the technology and capability. The elements will get to $mp. Like I stated before, either close by or even from Greenland. $MP is going to work with the Saudi's as well.
All I am saying is $dtref doesn't even have funding from the Federal Govt. Seems strange to me. All the early hype. Windows open and Windows close is all that I am saying.
To demand NO JV and 5$ price tags is a stretch. Maybe there is more to this story that we do not know.
I am pulling for Dateline👍️
My last answer to you
We have made a pact with the company that we will only excersie options when the company needs the money, something you will never do because you just turned up on the 8 o’clock train. We have been here for 4, 5, 6 and 7 years mate.
We're not up 10% so everybody's squabbling lol
Cost of building a plant $275 million to $350 million
If our REE comes up 10% to 15% we will go it alone and borrow the money, we have already been offered $500 million conditional on the REE results plus a 2.5 million ounces of gold.
The CEO travelled on his dime, and a lot of conditional offers were made to him as he met with the export bank plus at least 20 other US banks and the government and he’d funds and a lot more people on his dime I might add
You stated the other day...
That a lot of options are yet to be exercised and how good it is for the company. You also stated prior to that, that the top 20 holders of options would exercise only 5%. Honestly, I can't keep up.
I get exercising some options and selling a few to cover the cost of the share purchase and hold on to the shares. Folks will do this if a sale was being discussed or options are expiring. Even then there are work arounds.
Either way we are on the same team brother for now!
Nothing would please me more than to see Dateline be successful. But sometimes I just do not get where they are coming from with all these options and this silly trading. You state that the company is only allowing 750 million shares in the U.S. seems strange as well. Seems like manipulation to me.
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