I think it's premature and inaccurate to say they are not doing anything successfully. They have gone from site planning to an actual processing mine. I remember when they were first ordering the new tomkatsu trucks. A lot has happened since then. Successfully. If you think they are done for and going to fold you are just plain wrong. If you think this may not be the breakout quarter that we all hope it is (the non shorts) then maybe so, but big deal. To say the management is a failure is a failure to look at the history and know some facts.