InvestorsHub Logo

F6

Followers 59
Posts 34538
Boards Moderated 2
Alias Born 01/02/2003

F6

Re: F6 post# 270978

Monday, 07/17/2017 10:36:50 PM

Monday, July 17, 2017 10:36:50 PM

Post# of 470610
Full Show - Black Lives Matter Attacks First And Second Amendments / G20 Rocked by Riots - 07/11/2017


Published on Jul 11, 2017 by The Alex Jones Channel

Tuesday, July 11th 2017[, with Paul Joseph Watson hosting the fourth hour]: FEC Targets Drudge, Infowars - FEC Democrats are directly challenging the First Amendment rights of the Drudge Report, Breitbart and Infowars by threatening subpoenas to investigate their "editorial decisions." Pope insider Leo Zagami reveals more on the Vatican and he collaborates live on air with former Navy SEAL Craig Sawyer who's helping with international investigations. Geopolitical analyst Joel Skousen and DC correspondent Jerome Corsi also break down international and domestic developments respectively.

George Soros upset by 'antisemitic' campaign against him in Hungary
Posters show a large picture of the Hungarian-born Jew alongside the text: ‘Let’s not let Soros have the last laugh’


The head of Hungary’s largest Jewish organisation says the campaign featuring Soros is ‘poisonous’.
11 July 2017
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jul/12/george-soros-upset-by-anti-semitic-campaign-against-him-in-hungary

Israel defends Hungary's 'antisemitic' portrayal of George Soros in anti-immigrant poster campaign
Philanthropist billionaire is a longtime critic of Prime Minister Viktor Orban’s right-wing government


Some of the billboards have been defaced with graffiti that reads 'stinking Jew'
11 July 2017
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/george-soros-israel-hungary-posters-defence-anti-immigrant-campaign-vilify-businessman-a7836316.html [no comments yet]

Soros compares Hungarian campaign against him to Nazi propaganda


Billboards posted nationwide show a grinning Soros, who was born in Hungary, and the words “Let’s not allow Soros to have the last laugh.”
July 12, 2017
http://www.jpost.com/Diaspora/Soros-compares-Hungarian-campaign-against-him-to-Nazi-propaganda-499462

In Netanyahu’s World, George Soros’ Politics Justify Throwing Him to Hungary’s anti-Semitic Dogs
Nationalistic and xenophobic Israelis increasingly identify with like-minded countries and often share their distaste for liberal, universalist Jews


George Soros, at the Brussels Economic Forum last month. Many Europeans, including some of his critics, can clearly identify blatant anti-Semitism in the campaigns in Hungary.
• With Hungary cracking down on Soros, Israeli lawmaker pushes his own 'Soros Law'
http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/1.800601
• On Netanyahu’s orders: Israel's Foreign Ministry retracts criticism of anti-Semitism in Hungary and slams George Soros
http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/1.800437
• Hungarian premier praises Hitler ally, Israel accepts clarification to avoid marring Netanyahu visit
http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium-1.798853
Jul 12, 2017
http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/1.800819 [with comments]

Kenneth Dion Lever, suspect in Alabama mobile park shooting, previously charged with sex assault of a child


Kenneth Dion Lever, 51, is wanted for allegedly killing three people at a mobile home park in Alabama.
[ http://wiat.com/2017/07/12/gardendale-mayor-3-dead-shooter-on-the-loose/ (with comment)]
July 12, 2017
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/man-wanted-alabama-shooting-child-sex-assault-suspect-article-1.3320852

Former TLC Star Toby Willis Sentenced To 40 Years In Prison On Child Rape Charges
The father of The Willis Clan pleaded guilty to four counts of child rape.



07/12/2017
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/former-tlc-star-toby-willis-sentenced-to-40-years-in-prison-on-child-rape-charges_us_59661439e4b03f144e2f57e5?2dc [with embedded video, and comments]

Josh Duggar Apologizes After Child Molestation Allegations Surface
05/21/2015 Updated May 22, 2015
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/05/21/josh-duggar-apologizes-child-molestation_n_7417688.html [with (approaching 5,000) comments]

Honey Boo Boo’s Sister Anna ‘Chickadee’ Describes Being Molested By Her Mom’s Boyfriend (VIDEO)

12/11/2014 Updated Nov 28, 2016
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/12/11/mama-june-daughter-abuse_n_6309524.html [no comments yet], https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sanwdyfI4Dw [embedded; comments disabled]


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlvGPyC_N9w [with comments] [also at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BCYEcyMj4k (additional text adapted from; with comments)] [a must-watch]


--


Redneck Revolt: the armed leftwing group that wants to stamp out fascism



There are several commonalities between the far left and the far right – including a disdain for liberals – but the biggest divide is on the topic of intolerance

by Cecilia Saixue Watt in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania
Tuesday 11 July 2017 06.00 EDT

The cookout offered free food, a face-painting booth and a “protest sign-making station” – a pile of cut-up cardboard boxes, paint markers and rolls of packing tape. A group of neighborhood boys, each no older than 12, gathered around. They wanted signs to tape to their bicycles, so they could ride around and “tell Trump” what they thought of him.

One grabbed a piece of cardboard and wrote in big letters: “TRUMP’S A BITCH.”

Max Neely quickly stepped in.

“I’m not sure you should use that word,” he said, his voice taking on a fatherly tone. At 6ft2in, he towered over them. “That word isn’t very respectful to women, and there are a lot of women around here today that we should be respecting. Maybe you can think of another word to use.”

The boys conferred. Eventually, they settled on a different, less offensive protest sign – at least in Neely’s eyes. “FUCK TRUMP,” it read, followed by four exclamation points.

A 31-year-old activist with long hair and a full bushy beard, Neely had a full day of political activism ahead of him: Donald Trump was in Harrisburg to mark his 100th day in office with a speech at the Pennsylvania Farm Show Complex. In other parts of the city, the liberal opposition were also readying themselves: organizations such as Keystone Progress [ http://m64644.wixsite.com/keystone-progress ], Dauphin County Democrats [ https://www.dauphindems.com/ ] and the local Indivisible [ https://www.indivisibleguide.com/ ] group planned to march in protest.

Neely’s group were not among them. Instead, they had set up a picnic site in a small park, offering a barbecue and leftist pamphlets. Someone had planted a bright red hammer-and-sickle flag in the grass. On a nearby table hung a black banner that bore the words “Redneck Revolt: anti-racist, pro-gun, pro-labor”.


Activist Steve Hilditch, who runs a chapter of the Redneck Revolt group.
Photograph: Cecilia Saixue Watt


“If you haven’t noticed, we aren’t liberals,” said Jeremy Beck, one of Neely’s cookout friends. “You know, if you keep going further left, eventually, you go left enough to get your guns back.”

Wooly liberals, they’re not. Redneck Revolt [ https://www.redneckrevolt.org/ ] is a nationwide organization of armed political activists from rural, working-class backgrounds who strive to reclaim the term “redneck” and promote active anti-racism. It is not an exclusively white group, though it does take a special interest in the particular travails of the white poor. The organization’s principles are distinctly left-wing: against white supremacy, against capitalism and the nation-state, in support of the marginalized.

Pennsylvania is an open-carry state, where gun owners can legally carry firearms in public without concealment. Redneck Revolt members often see the practice of openly carrying a gun as a political statement: the presence of a visible weapon serves to intimidate opponents and affirm gun rights. Many of the cookout attendees owned guns, and had considered bringing them today – but ultimately they had decided to come unarmed, in the interest of keeping the event family-friendly.

* * *

Redneck Revolt began in 2009 as an offshoot of the John Brown Gun Club, a firearms training project originally based in Kansas. Dave Strano, one of Redneck Revolt’s founding members, had seized upon what he saw as a contradiction in the Tea Party movement, then in its infancy. Many Tea Party activists were fellow working-class people who had endured significant hardships as a result of the 2008 economic crisis which, in his eyes, had been caused by the very wealthy. And yet, Tea Partiers were now flocking in great numbers to rallies funded by the 1%.

By supporting economically conservative politicians, Strano thought, they would only be further manipulated to benefit the already rich.

“The history of the white working class has been a history of being an exploited people,” he wrote [ https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/dave-strano-of-tea-parties-and-patriots-liberty-for-who ]. “However, we’ve been an exploited people that further exploits other exploited people. While we’ve been living in tenements and slums for centuries, we’ve also been used by the rich to attack our neighbors, coworkers, and friends of different colors, religions and nationalities.”

Now, eight years later, more than 20 Redneck Revolt branches have sprouted across the US; the groups range widely in size, some with only a handful of members. Max Neely is a member of the Mason-Dixon branch, which encompasses central Pennsylvania as well as his native western Maryland. Many members are white, but the organization seeks to build on a “redneck” identity beyond race.

“I grew up playing in the woods, floating coolers of beer down a river, shooting off fireworks, just generally raising hell, all that kind of stuff,” said Neely. “Things most people would consider a part of redneck culture. We’re trying to acknowledge the ways we’ve made mistakes and bought into white supremacy and capitalism, but also give ourselves an environment in which it’s OK to celebrate redneck culture.”

The group draws a great deal of inspiration from the Young Patriots Organization [ http://www.youngpatriots-rainbowcoalition.org/ypo-resources/ ], a 1960s-era activist group consisting primarily of white working-class Appalachians and southerners. “I’m very impressed with Redneck Revolt,” said Hy Thurman, one of the early founders of the Young Patriots. “I think they’re right on with what they’re trying to do.”

The group opposed racism and worked closely with the Black Panthers, but they did make use of the Confederate flag in their recruiting. Thurman explained that it was used only strategically, to start conversations with poor white people who might identify with the symbol.

In the same way that the Young Patriots once used the Confederate flag, Redneck Revolt seeks to employ another emblem of rural America: guns.

Redneck Revolt groups work on providing an explicitly anti-racist presence in rural areas, and focus particularly on gun shows. Many members are from places where guns are relatively normalized, and Neely wants Redneck Revolt to serve as a viable alternative for people who might otherwise join the growing right-wing militia movement.

Since the 1992 Ruby Ridge siege [ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruby_Ridge ], the US has witnessed an increase [ https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/may/15/sovereign-citizens-rightwing-terrorism-hate-us-government ] in anti-government paramilitary organizations. Oath Keepers, for example, is a militia group that strives to defend the US constitution, which the group believes is under threat by its own government. They claim to be nonpartisan, but its members’ politics tend to skew far right. During last year’s presidential election, they announced [ https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2016/10/26/oath-keepers-promise-patrol-polls-election-day ] that members would be monitoring voting booths to prevent election tampering, stating he was “most concerned about expected attempts at voter fraud by leftists”.

But groups like Oath Keepers have much in common with far leftists: concerns about the infringement of human rights, objections to mass surveillance and the ever reauthorized Patriot Act, anger at the continued struggles of the working poor.

“We use gun culture as a way to relate to people,” said Neely, whose grandfather was an avid hunter. “No liberal elitism. Our basic message is: guns are fine, but racism is not.”

Officially, Oath Keepers’ bylaws prohibit anyone associated with a hate group from joining, though their background checks have proven to be inconsistent at best [ http://www.rawstory.com/2015/02/inside-the-bizarre-paranoid-world-of-the-right-wing-oath-keepers/ ]. But there are other rightwing groups around – the explicitly racist kind.

“I’m worried about Pikeville,” said Neely. “I’ve got friends out there.”

* * *


KKK members salute next to a pickup truck at a private campground in Whitesburg, Kentucky.
Photograph: Pat Jarrett for the Guardian


Pikeville is a small Kentucky town deep in the heart of Appalachia. It has no major airport or interstate, a population of less than 10,000 and an abundance of idyllic mountain scenery. Mining has long been the major industry here, though Pikeville also attracts tourism: mid-April draws over 100,000 visitors to the annual Hillbilly Days festival [ https://www.hillbillydays.com/ ], a celebration of Appalachian culture and music.

In the week after the festival ended, however, Pikeville’s atmosphere had taken a distinct turn. Neo-Nazis were coming to town the same day as Trump’s appearance in Harrisburg.

The Nationalist Front – an alliance of far-right white nationalist organizations – was planning a rally in front of Pikeville’s courthouse. “Take a stand for white working families,” read an invitation that circulated online.

“This begins a process of building and expanding our roots within white working class communities to become the community advocates that our people need and deserve,” wrote Matthew Heimbach on the Daily Stormer, a neo-Nazi website.

Pike County – chronically impoverished, overwhelmingly white – is seen as a fertile setting for spreading their ideology. The city of Pikeville itself has actually experienced some growth in the past few years, but the greater area is struggling. Pike County’s unemployment rate is one of the highest in the nation: 10%, more than twice that of the US as a whole.

Trump successfully tapped into this desperation with his pro-labor, anti-immigrant rhetoric and successfully won more than 80% of votes cast. Citing this figure, Heimbach hoped to develop existing pro-Trump sentiments into full-blown national socialism.

“We’re doing this because we care about the people of Pike County,” said Jeff Schoep, head of the neo-Nazi National Socialist Movement, in a video promoting the rally. “We’ve seen factories shut down, we’ve seen people losing their jobs, we’ve seen families getting desperate and reaching out for drugs or other things that they shouldn’t be doing. We want to give people hope again. Something worth fighting for.”

That something happened to be a white ethno-state, and many Pikeville residents were not interested.

The city approved a permit for the Nationalist Front to gather downtown, citing the constitutional right of free speech and assembly, though Donovan Blackburn, the city manager, also issued a statement promoting peace, respect and diversity.

Students at the University of Pikeville planned a counter-protest, but the event was quickly canceled due to safety concerns: university officials feared that a conflict between the Nationalist Front and members of the antifascist movement – or antifa – could escalate into violence.


An anti-fascist counter-march to #MarchAgainstSharia in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania.
Photograph: Sean Kitchen


Developed in Europe over the past few decades, antifascists represent the left’s own united front: a conflux of anarchists, communists, social democrats and others, dedicated to stamping out fascism by any means necessary, including violence –which they see as a justified response to the inherent violence of fascism. They often employ “black bloc” tactics, where individuals wear masks and all-black clothing to avoid police identification.

Antifascist groups have never been as prominent in the US as they have been in countries such as Greece, where masked individuals recently smashed the windows [ http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/golden-dawn-offices-attack-sledgehammers-greek-far-right-party-greece-athens-paint-rush-hour-a7659481.html ] of the Golden Dawn’s headquarters. But in the wake of Trump’s election and the ensuing spate of hate crimes, they have swiftly mobilized. A masked man famously punched white nationalist Richard Spencer [ https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/feb/05/richard-spencer-whitefish-neo-nazi-march ] in Washington DC on Inauguration Day; two weeks later, antifascists lit fires on UC Berkeley’s campus [ https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/feb/01/milo-yiannopoulos-uc-berkeley-event-cancelled ] in protest of rightwing ideologue Milo Yiannopoulos.

“We live in a historical moment where there’s unprecedented wealth inequality, and the average person is struggling to get by,” said Sidney (not his real name), an Appalachian antifascist who has been keeping a close watch on white nationalist activity in his area. “When governments, as they characteristically do, fail to step in, people look to other institutions for an answer. Fascism is having a resurgence because we’re in that moment. It’s not a problem that’s going to be solved by leaving it alone. That’s like leaving an infection alone.”

A 27-year-old native of West Virginia, Sidney comes from a coal mining family. He splits his time between installing drywall and organizing with Redneck Revolt.

“Pikeville really caught my attention,” said Sidney. “The Traditionalist Worker party’s been making real efforts to organize in Appalachia. I’m not a Kentuckian, but I’m a working-class Appalachian, and it really sticks in my craw.”


‘Rednecks against racism’: Anti-fascist protesters in downtown Pikeville.
Photograph: Pat Jarrett


To dissuade antifascists, who often wear masks during demonstrations, the Pikeville city commission passed an emergency ordinance that prohibited the wearing of masks or hoods in downtown Pikeville. Anyone above the age of 16 wearing a mask or hood would be subject to 50 days in jail and a $250 fine.

Antifascist demonstrators would have to show their faces, which could be potentially dangerous: neo-Nazi groups have been known to use facial recognition software and other tactics to identify counter-protesters, acquire personal information and subject those identified to further harassment.

“At Redneck Revolt, we tend not to cover our faces anyway,” said Sidney. “We want to make inroads with the community, and it’s easier if they knew who you are.”

But Sidney had a greater concern: Kentucky is another open-carry state and Heimbach had encouraged members of the Nationalist Front to come armed, ahead of “possible leftist attacks”. At least, however, he would have his own firearm: his Smith and Wesson semi-automatic pistol, which he decided to carry concealed.

A couple locals had expressed to Sidney that they wished they would all go home – both neo-Nazis and antifascists.

“I can’t blame them for feeling like that,” said Sidney. “They’ve got this huge ideological fight on their doorstep that they didn’t ask for.”

Regardless, some time after noon, a large group of antifascist protesters – some armed, some wearing bulletproof vests – headed to the courthouse, ready to face the Nationalist Front.

Instead, they saw only about 10 white nationalists, waiting in a little area that had been fenced off by police. They were members of the League of the South, a group that promotes a renewed attempt at secession from the US. The two major Nationalist Front delegations, the Traditionalist Workers party and the National Socialist Movement, were missing.

Rumor soon spread that they were lost.

“Given that they’re not from this region, and they don’t represent the people here, it’s not terribly surprising,” said Sidney.


A Pikeville resident argues with Redneck Revolt protesters.
Photograph: Pat Jarrett


* * *

Back in Harrisburg, a group of six young white nationalist men wearing a uniform of white polo shirts approached Neely’s cookout site; they looked like missionaries, clean-shaven with neatly combed hair.

Max Neely approached them and asked, cautiously, whether they were interested in socialism.

No, they responded. They identified themselves as members of Identity Evropa, a white nationalist group that endorses racial segregation and only admits applicants of “European, non-Semitic heritage”. They had initially supported Trump as a presidential candidate, but were now in Harrisburg to protest him; they were disappointed that he had not yet created a white ethno-state.

Neely wanted to keep them away from the cookout. On another day, in a different setting, some of his associates might have come ready for a fight. But today was meant to be family-friendly, and many of the picnic attendees were young black activists from a local high school. They could handle themselves, Neely knew, but the task of arguing for the legitimacy of your existence against those who deny your humanity is an arduous one.

So while his Redneck Revolt friends kept a careful watch from across the street, Neely let the Identity Evropa members talk more about their ideology – about how the US was a nation meant for white people, how white culture was under attack. Neely debated them as politely as he could, hoping his quiet listening could diffuse the situation. They thanked him for being so calm and civil.

“It’s easy to be calm when you’re a white man,” said Neely. “It’s easy when it’s not your life or your family’s lives at stake.”

They could not see the back of his shirt, which depicted a hooded figure dangling from a tree, and the words HANG YOUR LOCAL KLANSMAN.

The encounter ended rather decisively: three local teenage girls had chased off the white nationalists.


Resist: a eight-foot-tall sign made by the Redneck Revolt group in Harrisburg.
Photograph: Cecilia Saixue Watt


By mid-afternoon, the cookout was in full swing. Nearby residents filled plates with barbecued chicken and strawberries. A neighborhood man looked at the pamphlets that Neely had laid out. “Piece Now, Peace Later: An Anarchist Introduction to Firearms”, read one title.

“Y’all trying to overthrow the government?” he asked.

“It’s more about community defense,” answered Travis, one of the Redneck Revolt members.

“I just wanted to warn you,” the man continued. “West Philadelphia, 1985. Look what happened to them.”

He was talking about the left’s own Ruby Ridge moment: in May 1985, a Philadelphia police helicopter dropped a bomb [ http://mashable.com/2016/01/10/1985-move-bombing/ ] on to the row house that had served as a headquarters for Move, an armed black liberation group. There were 11 casualties, including the group’s founder, John Africa, as well as five children. The resulting fire destroyed 65 houses. A special commission later appointed by the mayor to investigate the incident concluded that the bombing had been “unconscionable”.

When Neely and other white members of Redneck Revolt claim allyship with movements like Black Lives Matter, they are compelled to acknowledge their whiteness – in particular, their ability to carry weapons with impunity.

When Oath Keepers began to patrol rooftops during the 2014 protests in Ferguson, Missouri, their intention [ https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/08/11/who-are-the-oath-keepers-and-why-has-the-armed-group-returned-to-ferguson/?utm_term=.2ecb76f74d7d ] was to protect protesters from the police – but many activists were alarmed and intimidated by the appearance of heavily armed white men. When Redneck Revolt members show up at black-led protest events, they are generally invited.

“They are our security,” said Katherine Lugaro, an organizer with This Stops Today [ http://www.thisstopstoday.org/ ], Harrisburg’s local iteration of Black Lives Matter. “They’re a wall between us and anyone hateful. They put themselves on the line.”

* * *


A neo-Nazi demonstrator in Pikeville.
Photograph: Pat Jarrett


Back in Pikeville, a full hour after the rally was scheduled to begin, a caravan rolled into the parking lot down the street. Matthew Heimbach and the rest of the neo-Nazis had arrived. Close to 100 people, dressed in head-to-toe black and carrying Nazi insignia, marched up to the courthouse building. Many in the front were visibly armed; others carried wooden shields decorated with swastikas and Norse runes. Someone had brought a shield featuring Pepe the Frog [ https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/may/23/alt-right-online-humor-as-a-weapon-facism ] and the words “Pepe Über Alles”. They sieg-heiled to Heimbach.

They were outnumbered by protesters two-to-one.

Then came a few hours of scheduled neo-Nazi speeches. This turned into a few hours of shouting, as the antifascists attempted to drown out the sound system with drums and jeers. “From the midwest to the south,” they chanted, “punch a Nazi in the mouth.”

A handful of Pikeville residents lingered on the other side of the police barricade, listening to the Nationalist Front speeches. But most locals present had trickled in along with the protesters, eventually making up a third of the crowd, and had joined in with the jeering.

“They were absolutely the most strident antifascist voices there,” said Sidney. “I’m assuming most of these folks were apolitical, or maybe conservative, but they were drawing a line in the sand.”

No injuries, no shots fired; the Nationalist Front finished their speeches and returned to their caravan. A heavy police presence had kept the two groups separated and prevented any opportunity for confrontation. It was over.


Cathi Lyninger of Louisville protests the neo Nazis in Pikeville.
Photograph: Pat Jarrett


* * *

In Harrisburg, night fell. Max Neely and his band of companions eventually regrouped at a local bar. They drank beers and talked about hockey. After a while, they gathered in a private side room to debrief.

They sat around an ashtray and chain-smoked cigarettes and carefully took turns recalling the events of the day. Late in the evening, Keystone Progress had led a protest march down the street near the cookout, though after police refused to let them pass through a blocked area the march fizzled.

“Liberals,” Chris Siennick muttered. A general disdain for liberals is, perhaps, the most notable commonality between the far left and far right.

But there were other items on the agenda. A Trump protester had been arrested earlier in the day, accused of having an altercation with a police horse; the group wanted to provide jail support. There was an immigration rights event in two days. And what did they want to do for the Central Pennsylvania pride festival?

Incidentally, the room was draped with American flags.

© 2017 Guardian News and Media Limited

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jul/11/redneck-revolt-guns-anti-racism-fascism-far-left [with comments] [h/t Elroy Jetson, (linked in) https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=132887325 and following]


--


LISTEN: Sarah Huckabee Sanders holds off-camera White House news briefing


Published on Jul 11, 2017 by PBS NewsHour [ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC6ZFN9Tx6xh-skXCuRHCDpQ / https://www.youtube.com/user/PBSNewsHour , https://www.youtube.com/user/PBSNewsHour/videos ]

Principal Deputy Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders held an off-camera news gathering at the White House on Tuesday.

Press Gaggle by Principal Deputy Press Secretary Sarah Sanders, 7/11/2017
James S. Brady Press Briefing Room
July 11, 2017
https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2017/07/11/press-gaggle-principal-deputy-press-secretary-sarah-sanders-7112017 [official transcript]


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7buLClFLNuQ [comments disabled]


--


Two Trumps Confess to Conspiracy | The Resistance with Keith Olbermann | GQ


Published on Jul 11, 2017 by GQ

We had never seen Donald Trump truly scared. He is now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMTEKNLAwzI [with comments]


--


Infowars Nightly News LIVE - Media Freaks Out Over Donald Trump Jr Fake Russia Scandal


Streamed live on Jul 11, 2017 by The Alex Jones Channel

Update: Tulsa man jailed in connection with explosion at Bixby Air Force recruiting center

Benjamin Roden, 29, of Tulsa, has been identified as the person of interest arrested in the bombing of an Air Force recruiting center in Bixby, Oklahoma.

Roden, who served in the military and was upset by the circumstances surrounding his discharge, has made anti-government posts [ https://www.facebook.com/ben.roden.735 (page since gone dark)] on his Facebook page in recent days.
[ https://heavy.com/news/2017/07/benjamin-roden-air-force-recruiting-bixby-tulsa-oklahoma-bombing-explosion/ (with embedded videos, and comments)]
Jul 11, 2017 Updated Jul 12, 2017
http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/crimewatch/update-tulsa-man-jailed-in-connection-with-explosion-at-bixby/article_2dc2efb3-9491-5f62-9f90-146413ac201f.html [with embedded video, and comments]


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhGFsQoEtLc [with comments]


--


Trump’s Russia Lawyer Isn’t Seeking Security Clearance, And May Have Trouble Getting One


Marc Kasowitz speaks to the press on June 8, responding to the testimony of fired FBI Director James Comey.
(Jim Watson/AFP/Getty Images)


Colleagues say Marc Kasowitz, President Trump’s attorney on the Russia investigation, has struggled with alcohol abuse and engaged in behavior that left employees uncomfortable.

by Justin Elliott and Jesse Eisinger
July 11, 2017, 9:37 p.m

The ongoing investigations into alleged collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia involve reams of classified material. Yet Marc Kasowitz, the New York lawyer whom President Donald Trump has hired to defend him in these inquiries, told ProPublica through a spokesman that he does not have a security clearance — the prerequisite for access to government secrets. Nor does he expect to seek one.

Several lawyers who have represented presidents and senior government officials said they could not imagine handling a case so suffused with sensitive material without a clearance.

“No question in my mind — in order to represent President Trump in this matter you would have to get a very high level of clearance because of the allegations involving Russia,” said Robert Bennett, who served as President Bill Clinton’s personal lawyer. Like many Washington lawyers, Bennett has held security clearances throughout his career.

As the spotlight on Russia intensifies with new email disclosures [ https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/11/us/politics/trump-russia-email-clinton.html ] that his son, son-in-law, and then-campaign manager met in June 2016 with a Russian attorney who promised damaging information about Hillary Clinton, Kasowitz’s lack of a security clearance could hinder the president’s legal and political response to the scandal.

One possible explanation for Kasowitz’s decision not to pursue a clearance: He might have trouble getting one.

In recent weeks, ProPublica spoke with more than two dozen current and former employees of Kasowitz’s firm, Kasowitz Benson Torres LLP, as well as his friends and acquaintances. Past and present employees of the firm said in interviews that Kasowitz has struggled intermittently with alcohol abuse, leading to a stint in rehab in the winter of 2014-15.

Several people told ProPublica that Kasowitz has been drinking in recent months. (The vast majority of those who spoke to ProPublica for this article declined to be quoted by name, citing Kasowitz’s penchant for threatening lawsuits.)

Experts on federal security reviews told ProPublica that recent episodes of alcohol abuse are a major barrier to receiving clearance, a process that involves government agents poring over a person’s past and interviewing family, friends and colleagues. Investigators typically raise flags about behaviors that might make someone vulnerable to blackmail or suggest poor judgment.

Kasowitz’s spokesman said he doesn’t need a clearance. “No one has suggested he requires a security clearance, there has been no need for a security clearance, and we do not anticipate a need for a security clearance,” the spokesman said. “If and when a security clearance is needed, Mr. Kasowitz will apply for one with the other members of the legal team.”

Kasowitz’s spokesman did not directly respond to questions about whether he has struggled with alcohol abuse, but said the attorney is able to drink in moderation without a problem.

While not a government employee, Kasowitz has become a public face of the administration on the Russia case. Last month, he went before the cameras to deliver the president’s response to the landmark testimony of fired FBI Director James Comey. White House officials have regularly referred media inquiries about Russia-related matters, including queries about Jared Kushner and Michael Flynn, to Kasowitz.

In Washington, where every word and action of the president’s lawyer is scrutinized, Kasowitz is a neophyte. Instead of negotiating deals among the capital’s power brokers or fending off FBI investigations, Kasowitz, 65, built a lucrative practice in civil court suing banks and representing, among others, a leading tobacco company.

Kasowitz has been described by colleagues in the scrappy world of New York lawyers as the “toughest of the tough guys.” Bloomberg News called him a “Pit Bull Loyal to The Boss” while The New York Times described him as “the Donald Trump of lawyering.” His aggressive legal style has spurred rebukes from two judges.

For over 15 years, he represented Donald Trump, earning the president’s loyalty through his eager pugilism. Kasowitz has defended him in the Trump University fraud lawsuit. He fought to keep records from Trump’s 1990 divorce private, and threatened to sue The New York Times for publishing a story in which women accused Trump of unwanted touching and sexual assault. He also recently represented Fox News’ Bill O’Reilly after multiple women accused O’Reilly of sexual harassment.

Before representing Trump in the Russia inquiry, Kasowitz was informally advising the president. He has told friends he recommended firing Preet Bharara [ https://www.propublica.org/article/trump-personal-lawyer-boasted-that-he-got-preet-bharara-fired ] because the crusading prosecutor posed a danger to the administration. He has told people Trump wanted him to be attorney general.

Trump reportedly sought a classic Washington lawyer to represent him on Russia before choosing Kasowitz. Initially Kasowitz was reluctant to take it on. “He didn’t seek this,” said Joseph Lieberman, the former senator and Democratic vice presidential candidate who is now senior counsel at the firm. “In the end, the president said, ‘I need you. I know you and trust you.’”

* * *

Lieberman and Kasowitz grew up in the same neighborhood in New Haven, Connecticut. The future senator used to see Kasowitz’s father, who ran a scrap-metal business, walking through the neighborhood, greeting everyone as he went. Kasowitz went to Yale to study American history and then to Cornell Law School. After graduating in 1977, he started his law career in New York. In 1993, Kasowitz broke off from the prominent firm Mayer Brown to found his own firm.

As the firm met with early success, Kasowitz became wealthy. He brags to friends he makes anywhere from $10 million to $30 million per year. He owns an apartment in a white-glove building on Park Avenue and a mansion in Westchester County. He travels by private jet and, when in New York, is driven around in a black Cadillac SUV. He owns at least two horses [ https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/3879688-OnlineDocument-7.html#document/p8 ], according to a lawsuit Kasowitz once filed against his daughter’s equestrian stable.

From the start, Kasowitz Benson had a hard-drinking culture that its leaders epitomized.

“It’s like a time warp,” said one former employee, citing the firm’s “macho, scotch-drinking, fist-fighting” ethos. Multiple former attorneys said they saw Kasowitz under the influence at the office, an accusation Kasowitz denies.

Associates would vie to join powerful partners in Kasowitz’s inner circle during the day at the Palm West Side, the steakhouse just across the street from the firm’s offices, and more recently, at another midtown steakhouse a couple of blocks away called Gallaghers. A framed magazine profile of Kasowitz hangs on the wall across from the bar at the Palm. Three former employees at the firm recall attorneys having to go across the street to the restaurant during the workday to consult Kasowitz on work matters, as he held court, drinking and eating. In response to questions, a spokesman for Kasowitz disputed that, saying he never had a drink during the day at the Palm outside of lunch and dinner and never handled firm business while at the restaurant.

Former employees pointed to reckless behavior by Kasowitz while drinking. ProPublica spoke with 10 people who attended the firm’s holiday party on Dec. 10, 2013, at the Edison Ballroom in Manhattan. Spouses and significant others were not invited.

Kasowitz, according to an attendee, was visibly inebriated, appearing to have a hard time standing on his feet without support. During the festivities, Kasowitz and a much younger woman not employed by the firm hit the dance floor. According to multiple eyewitnesses, they danced intimately in a way many employees felt was inappropriate for a work event. One person described it as “dirty dancing.” Some employees had seen Kasowitz’s dancing partner before: the then-25-year-old woman had been a hostess at the Palm. “It made women feel uncomfortable,” said one former female attorney who attended the party.

Kasowitz’s spokesman, Michael Sitrick [ http://sitrick.com/about/michael-s-sitrick ], initially said Kasowitz “does not recall whether he danced with her at a holiday party over 3.5 years ago.” Later, he said that the descriptions of Kasowitz dancing at the party were “untrue.” Kasowitz said in a statement he never had “a romantic relationship” with the woman, “who many of us came to know (as we have many others) because she worked at the Palm Restaurant across the street from our offices.”

Kasowitz has been married for 25 years to Lori Kasowitz, a former Mayer Brown administrator and regular on the Manhattan charity circuit. The couple has one daughter.

Sitrick supplied eight statements from Kasowitz employees attesting to his character and behavior at the party and denying the allegations about the young woman. He said ProPublica could not quote the employees’ statements by name without their permission. ProPublica reached out to all of them. Two declined to be named, and six did not respond to requests to use their names.

That was not the only dramatic incident involving Kasowitz and the Palm hostess. Late one Thursday night in March 2013, the same woman was arrested for felony assault at Beauty & Essex [ http://beautyandessex.com/new-york/decor/ ], a lower Manhattan restaurant and club, after allegedly throwing a bottle that hit another woman in the head, according to NYPD records. A former partner in the law firm said that Kasowitz was with her and sustained an injury. Afterwards, Kasowitz walked around the office with two black eyes looking “like a raccoon,” according to the former partner.

Asked about that incident, Sitrick did not answer directly. He said Kasowitz attended a dinner at a restaurant where the woman was in attendance. As Kasowitz was leaving the restaurant, he was “assaulted by a total stranger,” Sitrick wrote in a statement. The Palm hostess was not involved in that assault and Kasowitz’s assailant was arrested, the spokesman said.

According to current and former attorneys at the firm, Kasowitz hit a low point in the winter of 2014-15. He abruptly left New York for Florida, where he owned a mansion at the Equestrian Club Estates [ http://www.estately.com/FL/Equestrian_Club_Estates,_Wellington ] in Wellington. Kasowitz sought alcohol treatment at the nearby Caron, a high-end rehab facility, according to two people who heard it from Kasowitz himself.

According to Sitrick, that winter had been difficult for Kasowitz because of the death of his father and that he had “sought out counseling” like “millions of Americans.” The spokesman did not answer directly whether Kasowitz was in rehab that winter but said he was not “at Caron in January 2015.”

* * *

Anyone whose job involves classified information, from White House officials to State Department diplomats to outside contractors, must get a security clearance. The applicant fills out paperwork disclosing where he or she has lived, worked and traveled abroad, as well as any contacts with foreign government officials. The form also asks about substance abuse, criminal history and mental health.

The government then undertakes an investigation that can take anywhere from weeks to over a year, depending on the position. In the case of White House positions, the FBI does the investigation. Agents comb through educational and financial records and speak to neighbors, former employers and associates. They then present a recommendation to the hiring agency, which makes the final call.

It’s not clear who currently makes decisions on clearances for White House hires. Spokeswoman Hope Hicks told ProPublica that the Trump administration does not comment on security clearance issues.

Alcohol abuse is one of many issues examined as part of the security clearance process. The standard form that those seeking clearance must fill out asks whether in the last seven years “your use of alcohol had a negative impact on your work performance, professional or personal relationships, your finances, or resulted in intervention by law enforcement.” According to the official security clearance guidelines [ https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/3861910-2017-Nat-Sec-Adj-Guid-W-Disc.html#document/p17 ], “Alcohol-related incidents at work, such as reporting for work in an intoxicated or impaired condition, [or] drinking on the job” can be a reason to withhold clearance.

While all clearance decisions are subjective, “You probably wouldn’t get your clearance if you had serious drinking problems in the last five years,” said Sheldon Cohen, a longtime Washington, D.C, security clearance lawyer.

The security clearance guidelines also flag personal conduct “that creates a vulnerability to exploitation, manipulation, or duress by a foreign intelligence entity.”

In 2016, over 1,100 people [ http://www.govexec.com/excellence/promising-practices/2017/01/top-10-reasons-people-are-denied-security-clearance/134818/ ] appealed their denial of security clearance. Alcohol and drug use were common reasons for such denials.

Attorneys representing clients in Washington frequently are required to seek security clearances in matters ranging from Hillary Clinton’s Benghazi [ http://www.politico.com/story/2015/08/hillary-clinton-lawyer-top-secret-clearance-121736 ] hearings to employment disputes involving undercover CIA agents.

Already, there’s ample evidence that many aspects of the Russia case involve classified material. When former FBI Director James Comey testified about his interactions with President Trump, he said that he took notes after one classified briefing. “I wrote that on a classified device,” he said.

Adm. Michael Rogers, the head of the National Security Agency, testified [ https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/3890589-Comey-Hearing-June-8-classification-discussion.html ] last month of his interactions with Trump that could relate to the obstruction of justice issue: “Those conversations were classified.”

Meanwhile, congressional intelligence committees looking at the Russia issue have been scheduling hearings with key witnesses in classified sessions [ http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/28/politics/house-intelligence-committee-witnesses-trump/index.html ]. A congressional meeting with special counsel Robert Mueller also took place in a classified setting.

In a statement, Kasowitz said that “we are unaware of and not involved in … any investigation involving ‘highly classified’ (or even classified) information.”

* * *

The firm has gone through multiple rounds of punishing layoffs. In the past six years, the number of lawyers has shrunk from around 370 to 260 today. Several major rainmakers have departed, including two of the most prominent women at the firm: Eleanor Alter [ http://www.abajournal.com/news/article/eleanor_alter_leads_6_attorney_kasowitz_team_to_new_matrimonial_boutique ], a well-known divorce lawyer, and Robin Cohen [ http://www.lawdragon.com/2016/02/08/robin-cohen-joins-mckool-smith/ ], who led Kasowitz’s insurance group.

Now its founder’s increasingly high-profile relationship with Trump has some partners worried that it could damage the firm’s brand and future business prospects.

Last year, with Election Day weeks away, Kasowitz fired off a letter threatening to sue The New York Times for a story in which women accused Trump of unwanted touching and sexual assault.

Kasowitz’s letter to the Times dismissed the women’s accounts [ https://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/14/us/politics/donald-trump-lawsuit-threat.html ] as “false and malicious allegations” and demanded a retraction.

“People were embarrassed by the letter,” said one former attorney at Kasowitz’s firm.

The Times stood by its story. No lawsuit has been filed.

In February, several lawyers were upset when Michael Cohen, the former personal injury lawyer and real-estate investor who is best known [ https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/02/us/politics/michael-cohen-donald-trump.html ] as Trump’s former in-house attorney, arrived at the office.

“I came to see him because we were working on several matters together after the inauguration,” Cohen told ProPublica regarding his multiple visits to Kasowitz. Former employees say the firm briefly converted a conference room for Cohen to use as an office, with his nameplate on it.

Cohen said the “multitude of legal matters” he and Kasowitz were discussing included working as co-counsel for a client. Asked if anything came of those talks, Cohen said yes.

Sitrick, the Kasowitz spokesman, said, “Michael Cohen never worked for the firm or occupied any office at Kasowitz Benson.” He added: “They were working together on one civil matter for President Trump.” He didn’t specify what it was.

During roughly the same period that Cohen was visiting the firm, The New York Times reported [ https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/19/us/politics/donald-trump-ukraine-russia.html ] that he was under FBI scrutiny in the Russia case. Cohen has denied wrongdoing.

One Kasowitz Benson partner, Zachary Mazin, departed in May for another firm, McKool Smith. In a private Facebook post, Mazin praised many of his former colleagues, but said that he and his wife concluded their family could not be associated with the firm. “As the extent of the Firm’s support for Trump’s presidency became clear, Amanda and I concluded that we would not be living our values if I stayed,” he wrote, adding: “Our most important consideration was the message that this choice sends to our daughters, both now and when they look back on this moment as adults.”

When Kasowitz traveled to Washington to respond to the Comey testimony, he brought at least two other lawyers from the firm with him.

In the rush to respond to the former FBI director’s testimony accusing President Trump of inappropriate meddling, a team of Kasowitz lawyers, along with another spokesman, Mark Corallo, drafted a statement that was riddled with errors. It started with the widely mocked misspelling, “Predisent Trump.”

Corallo said in an email that the statement went out to reporters with typos because of a technical glitch.

The day after the June 8 Comey hearing, sources linked to the Kasowitz team told [ http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trumps-legal-team-file-complaint-doj-comey-leak/story?id=47934870 ] reporters [ https://www.buzzfeed.com/zoetillman/kasowitz-complaint-about-comey ] they would file a complaint against the former FBI director for giving what they described as “privileged information” to the press. Three weeks later, that plan fizzled [ https://www.yahoo.com/news/trumps-lawyers-fail-follow-threats-comey-165240367.html ] entirely [ https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-06-28/trump-said-to-postpone-filing-complaint-about-comey-s-conduct ].

In recent weeks, employees say, Kasowitz has tried to calm fears within the firm, holding a series of town hall-style meetings.

“You can work toward steering this president toward the best possible decisions whether or not you agree with his politics,” Kasowitz said at one such event, according to a person familiar with his remarks.

* * *

President Trump selected Kasowitz Benson to represent him despite high-profile instances in which judges criticized the firm for ethically questionable tactics.

In one particularly heated case, the firm sued investors on behalf of a Canadian insurer, Fairfax Financial Holdings. The company accused the hedge funds and others of conspiring to release information that would send the stock lower. Michael Bowe, Kasowitz’s deputy on the Russia case, was the firm’s lead lawyer.

In 2006, employees of Kasowitz’s in-house investigative arm, KBTF Consulting, tried to ensnare employees of Morgan Keegan, a broker-dealer whose insurance analyst was publishing critical research on Fairfax, according to a court document. They wanted to find out if Morgan Keegan gave certain clients access to its analysis before making its reports public. Kasowitz employees, including two lawyers who worked for the investigative arm, created a fake hedge fund called Blackwood Group Capital Partners. Posing as investors, the Kasowitz private investigators met with the Morgan Keegan analyst who covered Fairfax, asking if they could have advance copies of his reports. He said no.

Years later, Morgan Keegan hired a Rutgers law professor, John Leubsdorf, to assess whether the Kasowitz employees violated New Jersey ethical standards. The state bars attorneys from misrepresenting themselves. Leubsdorf called the firm’s conduct “inconsistent with the standards of professional responsibility.”

The Morgan Keegan attorneys tried to get Kasowitz’s firm thrown off the case, a request the judge rejected. But the judge said he was troubled by what the Kasowitz firm had done.

“I was brought up as a person and as an attorney to think you tell the truth, that that’s the only way you can deal with life. You tell the truth and, right, wrong, or indifferent, the truth will prevail. I don’t recall as an attorney ever participating in a deception such as [this] one,” Stephan Hansbury, a judge for the Superior Court of New Jersey, said at a 2011 hearing. “I don’t think that was an appropriate use of an investigator. I don’t think you’re supposed to go out and create evidence in order to justify a case. That’s not what the law allows.”

In 2007, Kasowitz had to defend his law firm from allegations of unethical conduct when another firm accused his team of violating a protective order in a legal proceeding. The order barred disclosure of bank records obtained during discovery in a federal shareholder lawsuit against Kasowitz’s client, a Canadian pharmaceutical company then known as Biovail.

But when Kasowitz’s law firm filed a separate complaint [ http://www.kasowitz.com/kasowitz-commences-stock-manipulation-lawsuit-on-behalf-of-biovail-corp-canadas-largest-drug-manufacturer-02-27-2006/ ] in New Jersey state court on behalf of Biovail, it used the bank records from the federal proceeding to bolster its case. Lawyers for the bank cried foul and in February 2007, Kasowitz had a testy conference call with Richard Owen, the U.S. district judge overseeing the federal case.

Owen was furious: “You get a whole bunch of the bank’s records and you’re sitting there drafting a complaint in New Jersey and you’re saying nobody ever said, ‘Where the hell did we get these records from, how come we have them?’” he asked Kasowitz, according to a court transcript of the call.

Kasowitz said his law firm did not know about the protective order and countered that the documents were not marked “confidential.” Owen did not see that as a good enough excuse and the two men went back-and-forth. Finally, Owen lost his temper.

“The record may show I hung up on Mr. Kasowitz,” said Owen, who has since died [ http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/nytimes/obituary.aspx?pid=176663652 ].

Kasowitz’s spokesman said the firm did nothing wrong in either case.

Eventually, Biovail fired Kasowitz’s legal team [ https://www.law360.com/articles/21314/biovail-fires-kasowitz-benson-in-document-debacle ] over the issue, only to rehire the firm a few months later [ https://nypost.com/2007/09/15/biovail-reinstates-law-firm/ ]. The firm was not sanctioned by Owen.

How Kasowitz’s aggressive style will play during the Russia inquiry is unclear — especially without a security clearance. On Monday, President Trump tweeted, “James Comey leaked CLASSIFIED INFORMATION to the media. That is so illegal!”

If that allegation were true, Trump’s own lawyer wouldn’t be able to review the material.

Annie Waldman, Jessica Huseman, Cezary Podkul and Kiara Alfonseca contributed reporting to this story.

Related:

Trump’s Personal Lawyer Boasted That He Got Preet Bharara Fired
Marc Kasowitz, President Trump’s lawyer in the Russia investigation, has bragged he was behind the firing of U.S. Attorney Preet Bharara.
June 13, 2017
https://www.propublica.org/article/trump-personal-lawyer-boasted-that-he-got-preet-bharara-fired

The Trump Administration
ProPublica’s ongoing coverage of the 45th President.
https://www.propublica.org/trump-administration


© Copyright 2017 Pro Publica Inc.

https://www.propublica.org/article/trump-russia-lawyer-marc-kasowitz-alcohol-security-clearance


*


Trump Lawyer Marc Kasowitz Threatens Stranger in Emails: ‘Watch Your Back , Bitch’

Marc Kasowitz arrives at a press conference on June 8, after the testimony of fired FBI Director James Comey.
After hearing Rachel Maddow discuss our recent story about Kasowitz, a man emailed the attorney urging him to resign. Kasowitz responded with threats and profanity.
July 13, 2017 Updated July 13, 2017
https://www.propublica.org/article/marc-kasowitz-trump-lawyer-threat-emails-maddow [with comments]


*


Trump's lawyers try to control unruly White House
They are reminding the president and his aides that small indiscretions can spell big trouble.

The lawyers, particularly Marc Kasowitz, have been taken aback by the infighting in the West Wing, people familiar with their thinking say.
[ http://heavy.com/news/2017/07/marc-kasowitz-trump-lawyer-emails-read-watch-your-back/ (no comments yet)]

07/13/2017
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/07/13/trump-white-house-lawyers-240489 [with comments]


*


Trump’s legal team faces tensions — and a client who often takes his own counsel


Marc Kasowitz, attorney for President Trump, makes a statement to the media during a news conference at the National Press Club on June 8.
(Ricky Carioti/The Washington Post)


By Philip Rucker, Ashley Parker and Devlin Barrett
July 13, 2017

The challenge for President Trump’s attorneys has become, at its core, managing the unmanageable — their client.

He won’t follow instructions. After one meeting in which they urged Trump to steer clear of a certain topic, he sent a tweet about that very theme before they arrived back at their office.

He won’t compartmentalize. With aides, advisers and friends breezing in and out of the Oval Office, it is not uncommon for the president to suddenly turn the conversation to Russia — a subject that perpetually gnaws at him — in a meeting about something else entirely.

And he won’t discipline himself. Trump’s legal team, led by Marc E. Kasowitz of New York, is laboring to underscore the potential risk to the president if he engages without a lawyer in discussions with other people under scrutiny in widening Russia inquiries, including Jared Kushner, his son-in-law and senior adviser.

Nearly two months after Trump retained outside counsel to represent him in the investigations of alleged Russian meddling in last year’s election, his and Kushner’s attorneys are struggling to enforce traditional legal boundaries to protect their clients, according to half a dozen people with knowledge of the internal dynamics and ongoing interactions, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss the matter candidly.


Jared Kushner, son-in-law and senior adviser to President Trump, listens during session with cybersecurity experts at the White House in January.
(Jabin Botsford/The Washington Post)


Compounding the challenges have been tensions between Trump’s and Kushner’s legal teams in a frenzied, siege-like environment. Senior White House officials are increasingly reluctant to discuss the issue internally or publicly and worry about overhearing sensitive conversations, for fear of legal exposure.

“Stuff is moving fast and furious,” said one person familiar with the work of the legal teams. “The tensions are just the tensions that would normally exist between two groups of lawyers starting to work together and struggling with facts that we don’t all know yet.”

A third faction could complicate the dynamic further. Trump’s eldest child, Donald Trump Jr., hired his own criminal defense attorney this week amid disclosures that he met with a Russian lawyer with ties to the Kremlin who he thought could provide incriminating information about Democrat Hillary Clinton during the campaign. Trump Jr. also is considering hiring his own outside public relations team.

In remarks to reporters on Air Force One before his arrival in Paris on Thursday, Trump defended his son as “a good boy” who had done nothing wrong and suggested he would support Trump Jr. testifying about the case “if he wants to.”

As in Trump’s West Wing, lawyers on the outside teams have been deeply distrustful of one another and suspicious of motivations. They also are engaged in a circular firing squad of private speculation about who may have disclosed information about Trump Jr.’s meeting with the Russian lawyer to the New York Times, said people familiar with the situation.

Michael J. Bowe, a partner at Kasowitz’s firm and a member of Trump’s legal team, said the lawyers are collaborating effectively. “The legal teams have worked together smoothly and professionally from the start,” he said.

Another question is who will pay the legal fees for the president and administration officials involved in the Russia inquiries. Some in Trump’s orbit are pushing the Republican National Committee to bear the costs, said three people with knowledge of the situation, including one who euphemistically described the debate as a “robust discussion.”

Although the RNC does have a legal defense fund, it well predates the Russia investigations and is intended to be used for legal challenges facing the Republican Party, such as a potential election recount.

The RNC has not made a decision, in part because the committee is still researching whether the money could legally be used to help pay legal costs related to Russia. But many within the organization are resisting the effort, thinking it would be more appropriate to create a separate legal defense fund for the case.

RNC officials declined requests for comment. The White House has not said whether Trump, Kushner and other officials are paying their legal bills themselves or whether they are being covered by an outside entity.

Those retained by the parties involved include Kasowitz, Bowe and Jay Sekulow for Trump; Jamie S. Gorelick and Abbe Lowell for Kushner; and Alan Futerfas for Trump Jr.

The president has been irritated with Kasowitz, which the Times first reported [ https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/11/us/politics/russia-trump.html ] this week. The two men have known each other for decades, and both are hard-charging, prideful and brash.

[Trump is struggling to stay calm on Russia, one morning call at a time]

But people briefed on the evolving relationship said Trump has made Kasowitz absorb his fury about the Russia inquiries — in keeping with how the president treats his White House staff, quick to blame aides when things go awry.

The lawyers are now faced with the challenge of trying to force change on Trump, 71, who throughout his life has often thrived amid freewheeling chaos. He made his name as a flamboyant Manhattan developer, trafficking in hyperbole and mistruth — or “puffery,” as one former aide put it — while exhibiting little discretion in his daily conversations. For Trump, this was a formula for success.

“There’s no question that Donald Trump has lied flagrantly and almost pathologically his entire life,” said Timothy L. O’Brien, author of the Trump biography “TrumpNation [ https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/044669617X ]” and a Bloomberg View columnist. “For good parts of his life, he’s been insulated from the consequences of doing that.”

Trump is now the highest elected official in the nation, and with that outsize perch comes potentially outsize consequences. His legal team is trying to impress upon him and those in his orbit that there could be severe ramifications for lying to federal investigators or congressional committees.

O’Brien said, “He is now in a completely different world, and it’s a world unlike any he’s ever existed in before — both in terms of the sophistication and honesty that’s required of him to do his job well, and most especially the titanic legal and reputational consequences of Donald Trump continuing to be the same old Donald Trump.”

The president, however, believes he has done nothing wrong and is the target of what he repeatedly has called “a witch hunt.” His instinct, those close to him have said, is to trust his gut and punch back.

Barry Bennett, who was a Trump campaign adviser, said that Trump isn’t used to losing and that “he never stops fighting. That’s what life has taught him. In Washington, politics is a full-
contact sport, and it’s certainly tougher than having it out with a magazine. It’s a new arena for him and he’s treating it like every arena he’s ever been in. He may be right, but it’s messy.”

During last year’s campaign, Bennett recalled, “do you know how many times people came to him and said, ‘That was lethal, you’re never going to survive it’? Every time, he survived. When somebody tells him he can’t do something, he’s at a minimum circumspect.”

When it comes to Twitter, however, the president is hardly circumspect. His political advisers have long urged him to restrain his first impulses on social media and to think twice before tweeting — and now, his lawyers are asking the same.

Still, the president persists.

“It’s my voice,’’ Trump said in a recent interview with the New York Times Magazine [ https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/11/magazine/washington-dc-politics-trump-this-town-melts-down.html ]. ‘‘They want to take away my voice. They’re not going to take away my social media.’’

Robert Costa, Rosalind S. Helderman and Carol D. Leonnig contributed to this report.

Read more:

‘A million miles per hour’: Inside Trump’s campaign when Trump Jr. met with Russian
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/a-million-miles-per-hour-inside-trumps-campaign-when-trump-jr-met-with-russian/2017/07/12/8f5a7964-671a-11e7-a1d7-9a32c91c6f40_story.html


© 2017 The Washington Post

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trumps-legal-team-faces-tensions--and-a-client-who-often-takes-his-own-counsel/2017/07/13/07361fc6-67eb-11e7-8eb5-cbccc2e7bfbf_story.html [with embedded video, and comments]


*


A Shake-Up on the Trump Legal Teams

Jared Kushner, Donald Trump, and Donald Trump Jr. after a presidential debate in 2016.
The president added a new lawyer to his staff on Friday, while son-in-law Jared Kushner reshuffles his representation.
Jul 14, 2017
As the Russia investigation took center stage once again in the headlines, Jared Kushner reshuffled his legal team while his father-in-law added a new face to the battalion of lawyers representing him in the sprawling federal inquiry.
Kushner, the president’s son-in-law and one of his top White House advisers, tapped high-profile trial lawyer Abbe Lowell to take over his representation in Russia-related matters. That role was previously filled by Jamie Gorelick, a former deputy attorney general in the Clinton Administration who navigated Kushner through federal ethics rules during his transition to the White House.
[...]
Elsewhere in the White House, President Trump added [ https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-07-14/trump-said-to-hire-lawyer-ty-cobb-to-respond-to-russia-probes ] Washington litigator Ty Cobb to his team to “enforce discipline in the White House regarding Russia matters,” Bloomberg reported Friday. Cobb, a partner at D.C. law firm Hogal Lovells, specializes in defending white-collar and corruption cases. His role is reportedly distinct from the team led by Marc Kasowitz, a longtime legal fixer for Trump who heads the president’s team of outside counsel.
News of Cobb’s addition comes after a week of reports from multiple news outlets of friction between the Trump legal team and its presidential client. The New York Times reported Wednesday that Trump has “trained his ire [ https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/11/us/politics/russia-trump.html ]” on Kasowitz as the Russia scandal returned to the top of the news cycle in recent days. Adding to the frustrations, the Times claimed, were tensions between Kasowitz and Kushner, who grew uncomfortable about possible advice the president’s son-in-law may be giving to their client. The account also claimed he was contemplating offering his resignation, although his spokesman disputed that assertion in a public statement.
[...]
In the wake of the week’s revelations, Trump Jr. hired [ https://www.wsj.com/articles/white-house-defends-donald-trump-jr-s-meeting-with-russian-lawyer-1499720320 ] Alan Futerfas, a longtime New York City defense attorney, to represent him in Russia-related matters. He also pledged to cooperate with congressional and Justice Department inquiries into Russian interference in last year’s election.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/07/trump-kushner-legal-team/533778/ [with comments]

Former Obama official: We never needed lawyers, 'just thought I'd point that out'
Jul. 14, 2017
http://www.businessinsider.com/obama-trump-russia-investigation-lawyers-2017-7


--


Sen. Warner: 'Strains credibility' that Trump was in the dark

All In with Chris Hayes
7/11/17

The vice chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee tells Chris Hayes it's hard to believe the president was unaware of an effort to cooperate with a Russian national that involved his son, his son-in-law and his campaign chairman. Duration: 4:58

©2017 NBCNews.com

http://www.msnbc.com/all-in/watch/sen-warner-strains-credibility-that-trump-was-in-the-dark-993220675726


*


Dan Rather on Trump Jr: 'Jaw-Dropping...the Game is Up'


All In with Chris Hayes
7/11/17

Those emails - the first evidence that the Trump campaign sought to collude with the Russian government - raise grave questions about the Trump team's ethics and patriotism, according to Rather. Duration: 5:30

©2017 NBCNews.com

http://www.msnbc.com/all-in/watch/dan-rather-on-trump-jr-jaw-dropping-the-game-is-up-993221187990 , https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTt0vXWrN8E [with comments]


*


Manafort, Kushner and Don Jr.: They all knew


All In with Chris Hayes
7/11/17

All those adamant denials from last summer about links to Russia don't look so good in retrospect. Duration: 2:47

©2017 NBCNews.com

http://www.msnbc.com/all-in/watch/manafort-kushner-and-don-jr-they-all-knew-993223235791 , https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0j0AGPIbs2g [with comments]


--


Trump Jr collusion admission leaves Kushner exposed


The Rachel Maddow Show
7/11/17

Rachel Maddow points out that Republicans are likely to try to undercut the Trump Russia investigation and the admission to collusion by Donald Trump, Jr., but the risk of how Russia might coerce the Trump administration with what else it could reveal adds urgency to Robert Mueller's mission. Duration: 19:38

©2017 NBCNews.com

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/trump-jr-collusion-admission-leaves-kushner-exposed-993292867638 , https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLIuoE0eQ9E [with comments]


*


NYTimes Trump Jr. reporting 'not closed by any measure'

The Rachel Maddow Show
7/11/17

Mark Mazzetti, Washington investigations editor for the New York Times, talks with Rachel Maddow about the story of Donald Trump, Jr. meeting with Russians and what questions remain to be investigated. Duration: 6:18

©2017 NBCNews.com

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/nytimes-trump-jr-reporting-not-closed-by-any-measure-993299011517


*


Trump Jr. scandal puts his father in greater risk on obstruction

The Rachel Maddow Show
7/11/17

Barbara McQuade, former U.S. attorney, talks with Rachel Maddow about what laws Donald Trump, Jr. may have broken in colluding with Russia, and what further legal legal jeopardy his father may be in as a result of this meeting's revelation. Duration: 7:20

©2017 NBCNews.com

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/trump-jr-scandal-puts-his-father-in-greater-risk-on-obstruction-993311811977


*


Russia enjoying great success with Trump in White House


The Rachel Maddow Show
7/11/17

Rachel Maddow notes that Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak is stepping down with a tremendous record of success as Russia's wish list from America is seeing favorable progress under Donald Trump. Duration: 6:38

©2017 NBCNews.com

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/russia-enjoying-great-success-with-trump-in-white-house-993315395858 , https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahguNPAHsx8 [with comments]


*


Trump Jr. scandal hurts White House, US image

The Rachel Maddow Show
7/11/17

Michael McFaul, former U.S. ambassador to Russia, talks with Rachel Maddow about how Donald Trump, Jr.'s admission of collusion with Russia hurts his father's image and the United States by proxy. Duration: 3:20

©2017 NBCNews.com

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/trump-jr-scandal-hurts-white-house-us-image-993328195739


--


Lawrence: Jared Kushner faces more trouble than Trump Jr.


The Last Word with Lawrence O'Donnell
7/11/17

Lawrence O'Donnell explains that while the revelations of Donald Trump Jr.'s emails pertaining to his meeting with a Russian lawyer during the campaign are damaging for Trump Jr. and Paul Manafort, the implications for Jared Kushner could be much, much worse. Duration: 10:28

©2017 NBCNews.com

http://www.msnbc.com/the-last-word/watch/lawrence-jared-kushner-faces-more-trouble-than-trump-jr-993301571583 , https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlo8yhwzC48 [with comments]


*


GOP advisor: Trump administration under 'avalanche of lies'


The Last Word with Lawrence O'Donnell
7/11/17

The Trump administration is under another round of fire for Don Jr.'s meeting with a Russian lawyer, after he released damaging emails concerning him, Kushner, and Manafort. Lawrence O'Donnell discusses with Bob Bauer, David Cay Johnston, and Max Boot. Duration: 8:47

©2017 NBCNews.com

http://www.msnbc.com/the-last-word/watch/gop-advisor-trump-administration-under-avalanche-of-lies-993303107549 , https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwbHSc_WXLo [with comments]


*


Swalwell: Congressional GOP increasingly wary of defending Trump

The Last Word with Lawrence O'Donnell
7/11/17

Rep. Eric Swalwell (D-CA), who sits on the House Intel Committee, tells Lawrence O'Donnell how he's sensed a change among some Republican colleagues since Trump Jr. admitted he met with a Kremlin-linked lawyer and explains why he wants an independent commission. Duration: 6:02

©2017 NBCNews.com

http://www.msnbc.com/the-last-word/watch/swalwell-congressional-gop-increasingly-wary-of-defending-trump-998504515658


*


'This is everything,' Trump Jr. insists after emails revealed

The Last Word with Lawrence O'Donnell
7/11/17

Donald Trump Jr. is distancing himself from the Russians who set up his meeting with a Kremlin-linked lawyer, despite their history of business dealings with Donald Trump. David Corn and Josh Barro join Lawrence O'Donnell to discuss Donald Jr.'s defense. Duration: 11:15

©2017 NBCNews.com

http://www.msnbc.com/the-last-word/watch/-this-is-everything-trump-jr-insists-after-emails-revealed-993306179537


--


Reports: White House in chaos after Trump Jr. releases emails


The 11th Hour with Brian Williams
7/11/17

After Donald Trump Jr. released a string of emails showing he was offered & wanted damaging information from Russia on Hillary Clinton, the White House is reportedly in chaos. Our panel reacts. Duration: 11:23

©2017 NBCNews.com

http://www.msnbc.com/brian-williams/watch/reports-white-house-in-chaos-after-trump-jr-releases-emails-993320515685 , https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQKocL2ijh4 [with comments]


*


Who is leaking damaging information on Trump's oldest son?


The 11th Hour with Brian Williams
7/11/17

White House aides are reportedly trying to find the source of the leaks that led to Donald Trump Jr. deciding to release his emails on on meeting with a Russian lawyer. Duration: 1:35

©2017 NBCNews.com

http://www.msnbc.com/brian-williams/watch/who-is-leaking-damaging-information-on-trump-s-oldest-son-993320003659 , https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snaii4yMgtU [with comments]


*


By sharing his emails did Donald Trump Jr. confess to a crime?

The 11th Hour with Brian Williams
7/11/17

Legal experts have varying opinions about the legal trouble that may be facing Donald Trump Jr. Three of the best, Jill Wine-Banks, Joyce Vance, & Jens David Ohlin, join to discuss. Duration: 6:52

©2017 NBCNews.com

http://www.msnbc.com/brian-williams/watch/by-sharing-his-emails-did-donald-trump-jr-confess-to-a-crime-993338947537


--


A Russian, an Email and an Idiot: Did Donald Trump Jr. Incriminate Himself?: The Daily Show


Published on Jul 11, 2017 by The Daily Show with Trevor Noah

After Donald Trump Jr. releases an email exchange that shows him setting up a meeting with a Kremlin-linked lawyer, Trevor unpacks the first son's possible case of collusion.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwr7pEgPqk4 [with comments]


--


Donald Trump Jr.'s Spam Folder Full Of Collusion, Too


Published on Jul 12, 2017 by The Late Show with Stephen Colbert

If you thought Donald Trump Jr.'s Russian collusion emails were damning, wait until you see his junk mail.

[originally aired July 11, 2017]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91bl-xNl_74 [with comments]


*


Donald Trump Jr. Is His Own 'Deepthroat'


Published on Jul 12, 2017 by The Late Show with Stephen Colbert

Unlike Watergate, it didn't require the services of a secret informant to uncover wrongdoing in Trump's administration. Just a son.

[originally aired July 11, 2017]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3EY8aLutbg [with (nearly 7,000) comments]


*


This Diagram Predicts What's Next For Donald Trump Jr.


Published on Jul 12, 2017 by The Late Show with Stephen Colbert

Stephen breaks down the implications of Donald Trump's emails with his weapon of mass clarification: the Figure-It-Out-A-Tron.

[originally aired July 11, 2017]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUpL05wjUP0 [with comments]


*


Introducing The 'Trump Attacked Me On Twitter' Hall Of Fame


Published on Jul 11, 2017 by The Late Show with Stephen Colbert

The Late Show proudly enshrines its inaugural inductees into the 'Trump Attacked Me on Twitter' Hall of Fame: Mika 'Dumber Than a Rock' Brzezinksi and 'Psycho' Joe Scarborough.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzvD5smt_1k [with comments]


*


Mika Brzezinski And Joe Scarborough Unpack Donald Trump Jr.'s Emails


Published on Jul 12, 2017 by The Late Show with Stephen Colbert

The 'Morning Joe' co-hosts react to Tuesday's major news story that broke after their 6-9am time slot on MSNBC.

[originally aired July 11, 2017 (U.S. central time)]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLVm1vfXRw8 [with comments]


*


Joe Scarborough Explains Why He's Done With The GOP


Published on Jul 12, 2017 by The Late Show with Stephen Colbert

'Morning Joe' co-host Joe Scarborough is renouncing his affiliation with the Republican Party after its members have refused to stand up to Donald Trump.

[originally aired July 11, 2017 (U.S. central time)]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yeygAJz6zzg [with comments]


*


Andy Serkis Becomes Gollum To Read Trump's Tweets


Published on Jul 12, 2017 by The Late Show with Stephen Colbert

No better voice could embody Trump's maniacal, power-hungry ranting than 'War for the Planet of the Apes' star Andy Serkis' famous character.

[originally aired July 11, 2017 (U.S. central time)]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64mWOoj68qo [with comments]


--


Christian Principles Don´t Apply When You Steal Shit


Published on Jul 11, 2017 by Mike Malloy

Hobby Lobby, the private Oklahoma company that won a landmark Supreme Court case by pleading that its business was run according to rigorously moral Christian principles, has been caught importing millions of dollars worth of smuggled Iraqi antiquities.

That’s according to the U.S. attorney in Brooklyn, N.Y., which said Wednesday that it had extracted a settlement of $3 million from the company and forced it to forfeit thousands of artifacts.

Hobby Lobby said in a statement that it made the purchases of biblical material and other artifacts as an expression of “the company’s mission and passion for the Bible.” It said that it “did not fully appreciate the complexities of the acquisitions process,” resulting in “some regrettable mistakes.”

Full story: http://www.latimes.com/business/hiltzik/la-fi-hiltzik-hobby-lobby-20170705-story.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wTLelxDHb8 [with comments]


--


"Day 173" Donald Trump Jr. Takes Over Dog and Pony Show From Ivanka This Week !


Published on Jul 11, 2017 by Bravo Alternative Media [ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCVV0_xnA_z-ALo6kZJz2WXA , https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCVV0_xnA_z-ALo6kZJz2WXA/videos ]

On "Day 173" of the Donald Trump White House Regime, we find out that Donnie Jr. is taking over the Dog and Pony from Ivanka. The Golden One says his son Donald Jr. will be on Fox news tonight, Trump knows the Circus Show "MUST GO ON" !!! He could Pardon his Son anytime he chooses. He could Pardon Kushner anytime he likes. But Bibi and the MSM would rather Jared Kushner and Ivanka stick around to keep a close eye on Daddy Trump. No Factory was built today in America because the Dual Citizen are busy with the Circus. Fox News now is a Full-time employee for the Trump Golden Empire. Russia, Russian, Kremlin, Vodka Joke, Mistresses and Broke ass Americans. Good Luck !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKePy5EY-QM [with comments]


--


this is part 7 of a 10-part post which proceeds (point arising on the given) day by (point arising on the given) day from July 5, 2017 through July 14, 2017 -- the preceding part is the post to which this is a reply; the next part is a reply to this post -- the following 'see also (linked in)' listing, updated for intervening posts along the way, is common to all 10 parts


--


in addition to (linked in) the post to which this is a reply and preceding and (any future other) following, see also (linked in):

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=3967329 and preceding and following;
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=54833454 and preceding and following

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=111270845 and preceding and following;
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=112895246 and preceding and following;
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=119496514 and preceding (and any future following);
earlier this string, http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=132785538 and preceding and following

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=126997578 and preceding (and any future following)

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=128832226 and preceding and following;
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=131488509 and preceding (and any future following);
earlier this string, http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=131914404 and preceding and following,
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=132042257 and preceding and following,
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=132278454 and preceding and following,
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=132786840 and preceding and following;
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=131914423 and preceding (and any future following);
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=132078524 and preceding and following

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=129013931 and preceding and following

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=132777786 and preceding and following

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=132787942 and preceding and following,
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=132826310 and preceding and following,
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=132827047 and preceding (and any future following),
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=132836992 and preceding and following,
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=132837064 and preceding and following,
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=132851550 and preceding (and any future following),
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=132977837 and preceding and following

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=132794751 and preceding and following

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=132810189 (and any future following)

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=132813672 and preceding (and any future following)

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=132814004 (and any future following)

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=132815928 (and any future following)

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=132818087 and preceding and following,
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=132818187 and preceding and following,
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=132826381 and preceding (and any future following)

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=132821592 (and any future following)

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=132825768 (and any future following)

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=132829059 and following,
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=132830136 and preceding and following,
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=132836093 and preceding and following,
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=132838114 and preceding and following,
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=132845459 and preceding (and any future following)

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=132830707 and preceding (and any future following)

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=132855605 (and any future following)

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=132872721 (and any future following)

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=132878921 and following,
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=132880457 and preceding (and any future following),
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=132907409 and preceding and following,
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=132907879 and preceding (and any future following)

https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=132887325 and following

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=132894128 and following,
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=132895587 and preceding and following,
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=132913036 and preceding and following,
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=132922811 and preceding (and any future following),
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=132975537 and preceding and following,
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=132976503 and preceding (and any future following),
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=133004015 and preceding and following,
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=133015256 and preceding and following

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=132894908 and following

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=132913703 (and any future following);
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=132913704 (and any future following)

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=132915282 (and any future following)

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=132915549 (and any future following)

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=132915921 (and any future following)

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=132941439 (and any future following)

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=132945542 and following,
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=132974430 and preceding (and any future following)

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=132990337 (and any future following)

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=133009021 and preceding and following

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=133033759 and following,
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=133034197 and preceding and following,
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=133044044 and preceding (and any future following)

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=133047395 and following,
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=133050696 and preceding (and any future following),
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=133050954 and preceding (and any future following)

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=133048050 (and any future following)

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=133058139 an following,
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=133068785 and preceding and following

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=133066344 (and any future following)

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=133067590 and following,
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=133067838 and preceding (and any future following)

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=133072893 (and any future following)


Greensburg, KS - 5/4/07

"Eternal vigilance is the price of Liberty."
from John Philpot Curran, Speech
upon the Right of Election, 1790


F6

Join the InvestorsHub Community

Register for free to join our community of investors and share your ideas. You will also get access to streaming quotes, interactive charts, trades, portfolio, live options flow and more tools.