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Re: Jayyy post# 6409

Sunday, 07/17/2016 9:39:17 AM

Sunday, July 17, 2016 9:39:17 AM

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There is still a fundamental flaw in logic here. Your conclusion is assumed and stated before any evidence, which is at best lacking, and otherwise falsely fabricated. Let's go point by point to demonstrate:

"In the end this is a fraudulent scheme to enrich unidentified insiders. Their business is printing shares--hundred of millons of shares,"
This is the conclusion. Note that it comes first and with no supporting evidence. If one looks carefully through the entire post, the only correct word or piece of legitimate evidence is the word "unaudited"

"The financial results are disastrous in their UNAUDITED filings."
Unaudited is the only word that actually serves as evidence in the statements above. Filings at otcmarkets.com show $78K and $238K in sales for the quarter and 9 months,respectively.

"Conclusion: Dumping shares at a price just above where the unlocking of restrictions has taken place for insiders. "
This is not a conclusion. It is an unsupported statement that I have identified, provided contrary evidence that resrictions are based on time (2years) not price, and repeatedly requested that you provide backup for this false statement. None has been provided. Instead the false statement is simply repeated.

"The fact that over the years it has printed hundreds of millions of shares at fixed prices ranging from $0.001 and $0.003, all while being traded just above .003 all the way to $0.01 goes a long way towards revealing ROTH's true colors as well. What a scam"
This statement has also been shown to be false and further has been modified from previous false information at hotstocked.com, currently in legal trouble for manipulation of securities they cover. This has all been previously posted, and contrary evidence presented that stock sales and prices are posted quarterly in the supplemental report.

So, to summarize, we have 3 fatal flaws in the logic:
1. Conclusion before the evidence or "cart before the horse" as it is commonly stated.
2. Evidence does not support the conclusion
3. Aside from the single word "unaudited", evidence is fabricated and continues to be posted despite its identification as false.