olddog I agree but I still own every share of the other stocks with big losses, life goes on. I don't cry just accept that maybe the CEO is a out and out right liar and on NTEK still don't know if it survives or not. The NTEK board is totally dominated with people that say they have no vested interest been posting for years trying to save us like they care if I lose money. I will bet they are paid bashers or idiots. JMO Mickey