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Friday, 06/26/2015 6:50:40 PM

Friday, June 26, 2015 6:50:40 PM

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Let us return to the days of the December 9, 2011 Shareholder Open House. The shareholders were told:

All the key "technological hurdles" were "overcome". Not "being worked on" or "improved", but "overcome". Number 1 "overcome" hurdle was Bearings, Number 2 "overcome" hurdle was Valves and Number 3 "overcome" hurdle was Condensing. That was December 2011.

On January 2, 2013, i.e., 13 months later, James Landon, CEO of Cyclone issues a Letter to Shareholders and says:

To assist us in moving this project towards completion, we have recruited contractors with expertise in certain areas such as condensing systems. We are confident that we can start delivery of engines to our customer in the first half of 2013.


But wait a minute, didn't Harry and Frankie already tell shareholders hurdles like condensing were already "overcome"?

On March 8, 2013, i.e., less than two months later, James Landon resigned as Cyclone's CEO and from the Board of Directors for "personal reasons". There was never again any mention of contractors fixing problems on the Mark 5 engine.

Maybe Harry and Frankie vetoed the plan to bring in outside expertise to fix the Mark 5, or maybe James Landon did bring in that expertise and they told him the Mark 5 would never work, but one thing is known for sure: James Landon believed Cyclone did not possess the expertise to fix the Mark 5.

Now we move up to June 12, 2013 when Cyclone hires Ohio State University to work on some of the problems with their engines. A presentation by the OSU people on March 8, 2014 described bearing design as a critical issue and stated they were designing and building a special bearing testing machine and starting a research program on bearings because no bearing they had knowledge of would survive in the low-pressure, low-temperature WHE engine. The high-pressure, high-temperature Mark 5 engine needs even better bearings than the WHE.

But wait another minute, didn't Harry and Frankie tell shareholders in 2011 the bearing hurdle was "overcome"? Yet in 2014 they were paying OSU to research and develop bearings that would work.

Moving up to February of 2015, we see in the update video that the whole cam-operated valve system (who's hurdles had been "overcome" in 2011) has been replaced with a rotary valve.

A rotary valve is going to have huge problems sealing 3200 psi 1200F steam while turning at 3600 rpm with no lubrication. Is it even possible to make such a valve? Very, very unlikely.

The video also shows a big condenser hung off the side of the engine, yes, even though the condensing hurdle had been "overcome" in 2011. As big as it is, though, it will need to be much bigger if the engine is to produce its rated 100 hp, i.e., as big as a semi-truck radiator.

And the Mark 5 engine has still not been able to run for the 50 hours necessary for the customer to accept it.

So, where's this leave Cyclone?

Harry and Frankie have known for years there are serious, unsolved technical problems preventing the engine from being marketable, yet they have never met their legal obligation to divulge this material information, as the SEC requires.

James Landon had concluded Cyclone did not possess the internal expertise to fix the problems. That was when Cyclone had a staff of engineers. They are gone now.

Cyclone has accumulated operating losses since inception of more than $21 million, yet has made no apparent progress getting the Mark 5 engine to work.

Even so, Cyclone has still never explained why the Mark 5 was originally promised to be delivered to a customer five and a half years ago and hasn't been yet.

One of their marketing strategies was to trot out the "Board of Advisors" with basically every expert in small steam systems in America. Most prominent among them was Jim Crank, who wrote a White Paper that Cyclone still flogs. Jim Crank posts on the steam car club website, for instance, http://www.steamautomobile.com/ForuM/read.php?1,23732,23798#msg-23798

All,
I got it, I got it, I discover what is going on!!!!! And you guys thought vaudeville was dead.
A graduate of the Cyclone School of Delusion and Wild Statements With No Supporting Facts.
Research and honest testing are passé, wild assumptions from comic books, funny cigarettes and phony test data are in. Saves so much in time and money.
Too bad some of us know which end of the screwdriver to use and not just for punching holes in oil cans.
Jim

or http://www.steamautomobile.com/ForuM/read.php?1,23623,23648#msg-23648

Dan,
Correct, no Cyclone engine has ever powered any vehicle and never will.
Put it down to a pathetic lack of engineering knowledge about steam and what it takes to make a successful expander. Then couple that with a monumental ego and narcissistic belief that you have really invented a new system, ready to be mss produced from the initial sketch on a napkin. Unadulterated self delusion.

Yes this whole episode has indeed given light steam power, except for the hobbyest, a black eye it may never recover from in our lifetimes.
Jim

or http://www.steamautomobile.com/ForuM/read.php?1,23623,23626#msg-23626

Dan,
Did anyone else catch that this nonsense is that waste heat engine from Delusions-Are-Us?
Stupid rotary valve, uninsulated lines going to the cylinder heads creating a large clearance volume, radial three cylinder. My condolences, another stock selling front they founded to promote their fraud.
I feel sorry for the students being taught this is supposed to be cutting edge green technology. What a joke.

Just for their information, every sewer plant around here captures the fart gas, methane, and powers their big IC pump engines.
Jim


And now we hear "The intentions of this company is on track now, they have had a few bumps in the past."

So just what has changed?

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