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Re: kbbccandyman post# 23001

Thursday, 02/26/2015 6:04:54 PM

Thursday, February 26, 2015 6:04:54 PM

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Perhaps when MerthyrQ states "It has been long known that JB was holding the fine details close. Others who reproduced what I witnessed had sufficient skills to duplicate the process without JB's help. That means the patent requirement is met." is not what it appears to be in that those whom "duplicate the process without JB's help" to make Kryron alloys do so following instructions and procedures obtained from within Bourque Industries and not as a result of following only that which is contained within the Kryron patents. If so, then only if Kryron alloys are produced by someone not John Bourque and only using knowledge contained within the Kryron patents, as in not using any machines, material, or insight by other persons at Bourque Industries, then yes the patents are valid.

.... so, whats what is not known, not contained within any public post on this board.

If I remember correctly, there were three posters on this board that held advanced training in the material sciences, and after viewing the patents none stated that they could make Kryron alloys directly from that contained within the patents.

For sure, as we all know, the Chinese and Russian governments hold no honestly in this area, and for sure if the Kryron patents were fully enabled then by now news of an advanced alloy being used in those countries would have made the business news simply because of all the areas for adaptation as so listed on Bourque Industries web site it would advance these nations ahead of the United States in regards to nation security. Today that news story does not exist from China and Russian, but imagine it was actually a fact... the United States government would be "all over" Bourque Industries in every which way.

Did not happen, thus if Kryron is for real and not a scam my conclusion is the Kryron patents are phony and useless. Then once again John Bourque better make haste and file new Kryron patents that contain full and complete procedures and protocols and secret sauces and pixie dust elements else a successful reverse engineered Kryron sample will be patented and prevent Bourque Industries from making Kryron alloys, and if so then truly this board can be vacated by all as BORK certificates with never hold any value, not even for a scam.

A patent that does not meet the enablement requirement may be declared invalid in whole or in part by a court or upon re-exam.

Enablement is determined as of the filing date of the patent, and patent-owners cannot use experiments conducted post-application to establish the validity of their patents.

Inventors who do not wish to teach the world about their invention still have some protection under trade secret law, which protects valuable secrets from being misappropriated through unfair means (such as theft or industrial espionage). But unless inventors apply for a valid, enabling patent, they cannot take advantage of patent law's monopoly rights, and thus cannot stop competitors from developing the same product or process through proper means (such as independent invention or reverse engineering). Enablement is the price an inventor pays for this stronger protection.

Doug