Back to you Gater I don't have any opinion any more. I used to be hopeful, but given the length of time and all the rumours that have not come true, who knows. I still have my fingers crossed that it will happen, as MSGI was supposed to be my retirement fund. I don't bother reading the MSGI bullboard any more, because now I have to focus on earning a living again, which keeps me very busy. Bacon .