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Hybrids is where the sales are. Hydrogen vehicles wii pickup the droplets.
Check Fords Sales yesterday and note where they're coming from.
Then , where's the H2 filling stations especially outside Ca.
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Witness the myriad of promotional posts made over years past. Has any come to fruition?
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The stock is $.88 for a good reason. That's the facts.
CEO of Toyota all in on hydrogen also.
Yes good point. It is always the same that good news equals a drop in share price. A conundrum. The only thing that makes sense is that news of expanding production means expenses that cost money up front and gains are realized much later. Recurrent income has helped stabilize the income stream and eventually economies of scale should lead to profitability. But ya its always disheartening to see the dip after good news. Another factor that may kick in soon is that forward trading multiples go up as retail investors gain more trust in a continued robust economy. It has been called by some Feds, "irrational exuberance". I don't care what its called because it is real upward momentum. Just have to learn to take profits.
GLTA Longs.
Assumptions do not flow to the bottom line. Expenses do. Sales creations are futuristic assumptive thinking; not factual,
55% drop in sales quarter to quarter is not a basis for improved results.
Reality is what the market prices in. It has what is believable; not what could be.
It that the same "win-win" that was said they have in So. Korea.? Um; what happened?
EPA will announce CCS rules Thursday for all power plants in US.
Theoretically, the new CCS requirements at coal power plants and new gas power plants should be aswesome for FCEL. But I confess ,I do not understand how FCEL stock reacts to seemingly good news. I really don't get it.
From what I understand, all coal plants that produce electricty will be required to have 90% CO2 captured before 2032. And the same will be true for all new gas plants - which I assume means any coal plants that will convert to gas. Coal currently makes up 16% of electricity production in US. And much more overseas. How could this not be awesome for FCEL? Well, I don't expect FCEL price to go up, even though I don't know why this will not be awesome news. ?????????
The 'governor' of Alberta is all-in on Hydrogen. This makes a big difference.
There's definitely going to be a bump to $15M in generation revenue. S&L revenue kicks in in Q3 I believe, reference the Q1 slide show for confirmation. We will average at least $3M per Q for advanced tech moving forward. I do believe something from sales will hit revenue in 2024, probably Q4. My guess, shares sold are for increasing production bin Canada or land/Building purchase for 400MW facility in the US. Or ramping MCFC production for South Korea sales.
Interesting to contemplate because Canada has such a small population to contribute to an expanding industry. But once the hydrogen production ramped up, the efficiency might negate the need for more workers. Since we are already establishing a presence in Canada it is a win-win situation. 👍🏻
Mosquitoes can't read. Sad for them.
Every connection in every article you refer to gives the bigger picture of the growing of a cleaner energy market and the going away from burning polluting fossil fuels. Some people would talk of the benefits of the automobile while minimizing the contribution of rubber and synthetics to the transportation industry. Impossible to have success in one without the other. What an incredible amount of activity directly and indirectly related to FCEL that has been building in the last six months. I think BOOM! is an understatement. Great summary Hog.
Wait; and wait; and wait.
I trust you realize that revenues can as much add to losses as they could reduce losses. Expenses offset sales.
The so-called "good news" you celebrate has not direct benefit to FCEL; nor does it speak to sales to FCEL or the expenses they would occur.
The post you respond to is no more than a promotional piece designed to convince others . It still opens up a pandoras box of questions and doubt.
Could Canada Steal US Hydrogen opportunities??? That would definitely favor FCE!!
https://cm.h2-view.com/t/t-l-eijjlhy-tlttwkidr-o/
That is good news indeed. An idea when they will hit the financials as revenue or do we wait until completed and just the generation revenues comes in?
We'll that was short. I really thought there'd be some follow through before the dump. Sellers came rushing in while buyers became shy.
May they'll be some drying up of the selling later but that 69,000,000 share day 2 days ago is enough to prevent it as it was all on the downside.
FCEL may have had its fill in dumping their dilutive shares into the market.
FEW is looking for help. Step up Hogwash and Kingy Longs. Lets see what you got besides words.
Revenue is down fool. Revenue with continuing losses means nothing other than the process is not viable.
“Well stated post. Those of us following long term”
Are losing money…
“Buying under a dollar and knowing it can rise (historically) quickly to $2 is an investment I will not pass up.”
The only thing fcel has proven in the last 3 years is how fast it can drop…you could not pass up buying fcel in the dollars for various reasons…keep telling yourself each drop is a buying opportunity for whatever silly reason you can think of…
One day, fcel’s trend may reverse and it actually WILL be a buy…and I will be there picking up shares, at whatever price it’s at…but to buy now based on utter nonsense like it could pop at any time therefore it’s a buy????….lol
“I personally would rather sell shares and not use predatory loans to finance future income particularly recurring income.”
Apparently fcel making money isn’t a part of the equation?…because that would be MY preference…but I understand why that isn’t a part of your thought process…
Well stated post. Those of us following long term know (historically) that FCEL can jump up a dollar any time. Buying under a dollar and knowing it can rise (historically) quickly to $2 is an investment I will not pass up. I personally would rather sell shares and not use predatory loans to finance future income particularly recurring income.
The bashers on this blog will immediately cry " dilution" and ignore the dilution effect of loans.
Keep strong longs.
Please take time to read and understand all, then react accordingly! $$$$$
April 18 UCONN
Yesterday, FuelCell Energy participated in @UConn's annual Earth Day Spring Fling celebration – a festival focusing on environmental awareness and sustainability. It was great to be joined by fellow Connecticut companies, as well as student groups, who share our mission of… pic.twitter.com/jDFz7S9kLd
— FuelCell Energy (@FuelCell_Energy) April 18, 2024
Part of that volume yesterday or buyers seizing the opportunity, And part of it was obviously swing traders trying to make a quick buck I have no fret about a little bit of volume and a little bit of selling based on their ignorance of how much money they can actually make Just holding this thing for the next 12 months. Actually gives me a little bit more time to possibly get those shares I want under $1. If the majority were actually doing diligence instead of just trading alerts and algorithms, This thing would run big time. And at some point it will just like before.
Any company not making a profit is in the same boat. What bears neglect to comment is that they made tons of progress and increased recurring revenue substantially by almost 40%. They also picked up four new contracts within the last couple months, finally got a pilot with Exxon, and extended and expanded (most significantly) their joint development agreement. Not only did they lock in 10 million dollars a year MINIMUM with ExxonMobil but they now have the right to use the technology with others. I'm sure they assumed with all of those developments surfacing in the near future, back in December that is, The share price would go higher. Big money clearly avoided the fundamentals and focused on shorting. When it turns it will turn strong and long. And that will be far less than 1 year. Q2+Q3 should guarantee this!!! TICK TOCK!!!
I, too, am a small individual investor. This has been my biggest investment throughout the years, and due to the two reverse splits we survived, I have less than 7,000 shares. Value-wise, my current largest holding is 400 shares of GBTC. But I have invested a lot more in FCEL.
127k would be considered a nice little jump in pre-market volume a week ago. I'll take closing in the 190s today and 15 million shares. I could actually have more money tomorrow and buying under $1 is almost a miracle. Like I said when it dropped under a dollar I don't foresee it being there very long. But if it lingers for another week I should definitely have money. I picked up 500 shares at 84 cents so I'm happy either way. But I'm guaranteed to make a ton more money if I could pick up more.
64k premarket at 8am, volume down seems to have been spurred by FCEL selling shares, likely 25-50M in effect triggering stop losses and some further selling. Could be wrong but I doubt more than 50% of shares sold in 2 days were newly added but they could have sold 100M. Volume yesterday seemed purely value buying at bargain basement price. FCEL shares added had to be for an immediate need, and hopefully we find out why this week or by end of quarter (4/30). We definitely know if there was any specific reason by Q2 call. 4 count them, FOUR NEW contracts identified in the past 2 months. And that's without the infamous 45V. Shares under $1 like getting a full tank of gas & a 5 gallon of water in Mad Max!
What have you correctly called this all the way down from $26 to .95 cents Hopestud??? I want you to say it loudly for the idiots (Hogwash, Kingjerks) in the front row!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Advice- Buy the car. There's less depreciation!
BULLS are dancing in the streets over an overdue dead cat bounce. I expected it, said it, and here it is.
They're so excited the talk is "loading up".. Its the usual euphoria over a short lived pop. Watch how quiet it becomes when yet again it fizzles.
The poor souls are lost. They really believe at $.95/sh they have something going.
Too sad; yet Too funny
I remember you posting about the Harley before the run up. Yeah I figured this time around the upside may be more gradual but I have enough shares to be comfortable. Today the tide was lifting most if all boats. I have a hunch the major selling is over and we get a leveling off. I plan to buy at any dip though, car or no car. I can uber if need be.
I really like the cadence of this march up to earnings. Maybe a little slower but definitely in the right direction. The article re. hydrogen steel making is spot on for South Korea, and their steel making prowess. We will see.
Thanks, you also. Yeah I've contemplated selling my Harley since I haven't even put a thousand miles on it yet. I bought it with profit that I knew I was going to make in 2021. If I sell it and buy shares I could easily buy back another one with the profit this coming fall
I think personally the biggest difference between today in the past two trading days is that the company was selling shares the past two trading days, And I'm not quite sure if they are today or not. So the volume today is people slapping the ask instead of putting a buy order in at a lower price and waiting for it to trigger. Sears being traded today our share is actually being traded not being put in play. I would gladly like to see the average daily volume over 20 million for the next few weeks. Actually from this point moving forward would be wonderful.
ALL RECENT, less than 7 Months
April
Per Thomask88 on ST comes through once again, FCE gaining more traction, and with Cal Irvine
https://engineering.wisc.edu/news/slashing-the-carbon-footprint-of-steel-production/
April
https://investor.fce.com/press-releases/press-release-details/2024/FuelCell-Energy-Technology-to-be-Used-in-Sacramento-Wastewater-Biofuel-Clean-Energy-Project/default.aspx
April
https://investor.fce.com/press-releases/press-release-details/2024/Recently-Updated-and-Extended-Joint-Development-Agreement-between-ExxonMobil-Technology-and-Engineering-Company-and-FuelCell-Energy-Aimed-at-Accelerating-Access-to-Carbonate-Fuel-Cell-Technology-for-Carbon-Capture/default.aspx
https://investor.fce.com/press-releases/press-release-details/2024/FuelCell-Energy-Innovators-to-Highlight-Advanced-Clean-Technologies-at-CERAWeek-2024/default.aspx
Yesterday, FuelCell Energy participated in @UConn's annual Earth Day Spring Fling celebration – a festival focusing on environmental awareness and sustainability. It was great to be joined by fellow Connecticut companies, as well as student groups, who share our mission of… pic.twitter.com/jDFz7S9kLd
— FuelCell Energy (@FuelCell_Energy) April 18, 2024
I too have pondered ways to load up including selling my car that spends a lot of time depreciating in the garage. If I sold it now it would save me having to replace the hybrid battery that might need replacing next year or shortly thereafter. I was ready to buy more ( I bought lightly ) today but waited to see where the afternoon would take us. So far the entire market is up. Things will be more clear at earnings. If this quarter was low water the rest of the year may surprise us. Cash not an issue. Sun spot cycle peaks this summer. If it is as hot as the end of the last cycle we could get a few brown or blackouts that re-ignites debate about the climate. Either way I am optimistic. Good luck to all longs.
Per Thomask88 on ST comes through once again, FCE gaining more traction, and with Cal Irvine
https://engineering.wisc.edu/news/slashing-the-carbon-footprint-of-steel-production/
Per Thomask88 on ST comes through once again, FCE gaining more traction, and with Cal Irvine
https://engineering.wisc.edu/news/slashing-the-carbon-footprint-of-steel-production/
Obviously something to be optimistic about but I won't get excited until we close over a dollar for a couple of days. I'd love to see this run right up to $2. And what I would love most is that people bailed after a 10 to 20% gain thinking it was going right back down. I wouldn't mind hanging between 90 cents in a dollar for a couple days then running So I could buy more. I actually contemplated taking a nice size loan if it stays below a dollar for over a week. Anything under a dollar is insanely cheap. Still plenty of room to run beyond two or $3, But under $1 is a gift.
Looks like some shorties bailing this morning. Did I hear someone predicting 0.50 cents? Bzzzzzzzzz
Here here. It wasn't to long ago that your leader said it'll be up 1400% in no time. Then it tanked further. Now $2.00 is sweet?
Have the sites been adjusted so quickly?
Dilution kills investor value. The 500,000,000 shares that were authorized back fired on investors including institutions who voted for it. Its obvious the company has been selling into the market thereby putting pressure on an already low price. No doubt thepenny price tag will remain there probably for years bouncing along within a tight range never showing any signs of recovering. The company will see to that with their ongoing dilution.
Expenses will grow as they burn cash. Sales will never offset expenses and losses will continue. Sales are in the distance and then only a wish.
Longs betting on the company recovering soon have placed a bad bet. They're stuck in a hole they dug themselves.
Hogwash will continue to promote in an effort to shine light and give hope. As was witnessed in the past, it will have no effect. .Followers will however look to those posts so to take comfort. Temporary feel good won't translate into results however.
Fundamentals are and will continue to be lacking. Clearly, as witnessed by the never ending selling and lack of buying support, the stock will be under pressure.
Some Longs so dedicated will continue to think the px is a bargain. They'll continue to buy shares ignoring all common sense investment principals to do so. This is the price they pay.
Its all a sad commentary for those so committed for all the wrong reasons. R.I.P
Hog, I agree that selling at $2 would be sweet. FCEL timing of selling shares is always out of sync with macro economics. If we had 500 mil shares on the selling table in Feb '21, at $28 a share, we would never have any issues with funding projects. But that is what makes the market interesting.
Just a guess we sold 60-80 mil shares in last couple weeks and the price eases up to $1 just before earnings. What is your opinion where we are?
"Todays price is below total of cash on hand"
they have that cash on hand due to dilution...and they are able to keep that cash on hand because of dilution...Fcel was hoping for the Gov to send them welfare checks to keep them from having to dilute...but the Gov has not yet felt the desire to do so...Fcel hoped that Exxon would bail them out with a fat contract...but year after year all fcel gets is an extension and a public pat on the rump after which Exxon tells them to run along now...if you are wondering why the pps is so low, you might want to think about these things...
"My take on the "dilution" is that the same institutional buyers and savvy longs that follow this company are buying."
well someone is sure buying...and they have since 20 bucks a share...all the way down...im not sure exactly what is "savvy" about continuing to buy shares that do nothing but continually drop and drop and drop...
" In other words " a gift""
a stock that keeps hitting new yearly lows day after day is not a "gift"...not of you keep buying it as it keeps dropping...i asked you the last time you bought this "gift" why you are buying it instead of just waiting for it to stop dropping and reverse the trend?...i have made a lot of money trading this stock...but i dont just blindly buy the...im not interested in losing money every single time i buy it...i dont care if one day it eventually comes back to take me to breakeven...many will tell you that patience is the key to making money in fcel...but its not buying the stock all over the place and then waiting for it to come back up that is the patience you should be exercising...patience should be exercised BEFORE you buy...not AFTER...
"Any doom and gloom you put out there now is humorous."
im talking about the pps...the business or rather lack of it...dilution...the buying and selling...these are things you can see...if it sounds like im talking about "gloom and doom" then maybe you should think about why it looks that way...even to you...
Could resist buying some shares at 84 cents. I'm about ready to take a loan to buy at these prices. Can't wait to see BlackRock and vanguards next filing. Absolutely selling shares for some good reason at this price. Just wish they could have gotten authorization when the share price was closer to $2.
https://endeavor.omeclk.com/portal/wts/ug%5Ec%7C9ehytqqe%7CzBeqjCECqQ6h%5EC2yzObe83aF0CnngneesjPcEF2PPyPqr%7CCqkBEOtr9ra
We are working with these guys
https://cm.h2-view.com/t/t-l-eirkylk-tlttwkidr-m/
Nice Steve, wish I could say the same. I did pick up 500 though. I also threw a little $ at May $1 options. They are obviously selling shares since no one with a brain is selling at $1 or under. Certainly not to the tune of 10+M shares let alone 50M. Im anxious to find out what for. Might be to close on property for 400MW manufacturing facility
Ditto, I blocked a few people on here many moons ago. They clearly don't reflect all the facts.
My take on the "dilution" is that the same institutional buyers and savvy longs that follow this company are buying. Todays price is below total of cash on hand plus plant, equipment and future recurrent generation. In other words " a gift". Maybe you were a toddler when FCEL hit 0.13 cents a share, with the S.Korean litigation, no cash, and terrible debt. Any doom and gloom you put out there now is humorous. Really.
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