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For What Its Worth
Steven Stills...Buffalo Springfield 1967
"There's somethin happen'n here...what it is ain't exactly clear"
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I like how PSS is standing in front of the 10 sequencers in vid posted wednesday!!
KEYO
So PSS's next genome sequencing partnership will be with UoU and the Heritage 1K program?
Sept 19-
must say I am hoping for a Monday to remember in the most Rocketful way! Slaughterhouse my ass - really????? As soon as people at large and institutions find out where Nant is going - and I feel sure we will be able to tell by volume when imminent, we will laugh through tears at these prices !!!
That would be freakin' PERFECT!
Did you notice they "let slip" a few things today at the Summit? And John Chen (CEO Blackberry) was SO excited he plugged Sunday's 60 Minutes. I assume Patrick Soon-Shiong will be on the show?
John has got to be ecstatic. Blackberry(BBRY)is going to soar in the coming months.
What a ride...
heidib: Tomorrow, after hours, the bomb is dropped. All eyes on the Form 10 for 48 hours then The Good Doc on 60min.
Monday = mayhem
Oh, my, will it be? Not sure
Can it be? Yes, for sure.
lns
Public public public not IPO we knew it we believe woo hoo
Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Engineering plans are underway to introduce a consumer model of this technology in 2015.
http://www.sensorsmag.com/sensors-products/medical/news/advanced-telesensors-awarded-patrick-soon-shiong-innovation-16429
whiz: Apparently she doesn't and I agree. That's why I sold all I bought last summer and early fall. I saw the only hope there being a "BIF" coming in a saving the day. I thought that "BIF" was Dr.SS. I was wrong. I can admit. I sold in the spring before the debacle and was able to at least make ~33% and put it all here (KEYO), but a bit early...before the basher scare of the Keyo NV sub dissolution.
A little birdie tapped me on the shoulder and whispered I may be right on target w/ the R(T)M theory I used for my basis of Dr.SS taking NEOM over for him to take NantWorks, LLC public but was wrong on the vehicle and pointed me to KEYO. I instantly smiled and 48hrs later I was a KEYO shareholder.
Little did I and apparently most know at the time was that typically in a RTM, a subsidiary is "created" for primarily that transaction, much like the (sham for CSH) RM that NEOM pulled. They created the services company for just the RM transaction.
In this case, KEYO "created" the subsidiary for the RTM transaction by re-instating Keyon Communications, Inc.(NV). The basher sell-off/scare in late May was made easy because nobody on the board, including myself, apparently knew or at least didn't post any info on that and the fact that it's an operation of law that after the merger of the acquirer's sub and the target that the sub MUST dissolve. It's after that transaction that it's a matter of choice as to what entity is the final survivor...the target or the acquirer. It's typical for the acquirer to cease existing and the target to survive. I think that's the case here (target survives) hence the dissolution of the acquirer, KEYO, which still trades and the reason why there isn't a NantWorks, LLC SEC CIK# yet.
Reason being, post the "Super 8K" Form 10 bomshell that Dr.SS drops on the markets, Nantworks, LLC will assume KEYO's CIK#, just like this example for the recent CRRA/NHMD reverse merger...
http://www.sec.gov/cgi-bin/browse-edgar?company=Nate%27s+Food+Co.&owner=exclude&action=getcompany
Back to mid-late May..."they" were relentless on the board "waiting" for the "death knell" of the KEYO sub dissolution.
Crazy thing was it seemed half the folks who bought KEYO before that were led to believe or simply mistook that they were actually trading the parent holding company's stock, KEYO, not the Keyon Communications, Inc.(NV) subsidiary which was the primary focus of the board's posts.
BIG MISTAKE (by us all) that cost many much. It wasn't until after that when the real deep DD was able to begin...after the dust settled and the noise quieted down.
Restore some optimism in what? Mankind? Haha! NantWorks, LLC being public will be unlike any other company before it. Much like MSFT or GOOG breaking ground but bigger than both combined in time.
It'll never restore my confidence in the market itself or its ways but it will allow me to forget ever about thinking about playing it again.
This is "do or die" for me...last play in the market.
I either go down w/ the ship logging another loss or out on top logging a life-changer.
LEGACY STOCK (especially when you throw in the target stocks)
GLTA!
lns
lesnshawn. Thanks for the response & info. Wilma just doesn't know how long you supported NEOM. I finally came to a point that I have very little faith that they could muster even a small run now.
I hope KEYO does something to restore some optimism I used to have.
lesnshawn, I sent you an E-mail @ hotmail. Thanks for the insight.
Maybe THAT is was the latest NantHealth filing is about?
whizknock: email me...my ihub handle at hotmail lns eom
Hey Whiz - welcome aboard the KEYO / NANT Rocket Ship! There's NO YA scumbag financers associated with KEYO!
Wilma is a very sad case for a grown woman acting like a little school girl / child, and delusional! It's obvious she has an agenda, which lsn explained. We know better about lsn and she's CLEARLY wrong!
She has provided ZERO DD and posts hearsay GARBAGE and her bashing agenda opinions ONLY!
I mean seriously, she's so obvious - she can talk good about NEOM (.0001 no bid and being massively diluted again by YA) and not KEYO (.07 today and a clean PUBCO trading shell 80% controlling by the good Doc, and the Doc said he will be taking NANT-Health public!) - so NEOM over KEYO... NOT!!
We first started out with NANT-Health as the RTM play, but after a lot of DD have come to the conclusion the Doc will take the Parent Company NANT-Works PUBCO via KEYO RTM. Take some time and read the KEYO board, all the DD is there. I will end up recouping my NEOM investment and a lot more!
Happy Trading!
Rock On!
whiz: You found it. Good seeing you. KEYO, yes. We got all the DD over there you need. It's been a quest to prove the theory wrong all summer long (since mid May). I'm not the only one on the quest. The quest has only bolstered the theory to a solid hypothesis based on solid DD. Join us on the quest.
Over here three of us regulars who post on KEYO (myself, RDY2ROCK, hestheman) that are limited, because of wilma, to 1ppd but not over here.
She's a joke over there. Her whole deal is literally (know this because she stated this in PM to another poster) to disrupt over there because of ME. Yes, called me a pumper/basher of NEOM and she's livid over it. She's crazy. You know that's not me. She on the KEYO board now senselessly bashing by going as far as blatantly outright lying and she never provides supporting links, evidence, anything to back up anything she says. You'll see if you haven't already been over there.
Her actions over there is partly responsible for the creation of this board. Don't tell her. hahaha
See you over at the KEYO board! Don't hesitate to ask about anything. Most everybody but wilma will gladly share answers, links, points in directions, DD we've learned, etc.
If we are right, seriously, THIS could be the elusive life-changing legacy stock.
The White Whale
lns
DD is all there. Check it out!!! KEYO
Thanks for interest!
So Lesnshawn, are you saying Keyon Communications is the shares to buy? Thanks for any response.
Anither day closer to the truth!! Done, my 7640.. Lets Take off!!!
GO time has to be near, so many other companies are attempting to do same at PSS:
http://mymeedia.com/stages/tech/post/5847177
yet still as "silos" and no one is putting ALL the pieces together under one roof as Nantworks is attempting.... again, surely is why he is diligent about having Every i dotted before going to the presses with announcement......feels Soon though!!
Yeah i knew I was "coff coff" behair on that one!! ;)
HMB: We caught that last week. That article makes it sound like it's fresh money when it wasn't, really. And, not only that, it wasn't $50MM, it was a $20MM deposit towards the "pledged" $100MM in July.
These writers! GEESH!!!!!
As clueless as hairball.
lns
SOFTWARE | Tue 04 Nov 2014Alexandria, Nov. 4 -- Nant Holdings IP has been awarded a patent for last mile data delivery systems and methods. This invention was developed by Wittenschlaeger Thomas. The patent application number is 13/720,976. The International Patent Classification code is H04N 7/20 (20060101). Cooperative Patent Classification codes are H...
http://globalipnews.com/?q=Nant+Holdings
System and Method of Common Synchronisation for Bursts Transmitted Over An Uplink Connection in An Integrated Multispot Satellite Communication System in A Multimedia Broadcasting Network
Download Price: 150$
Abstract: System and method of common synchronisation for bursts transmitted over an uplink connection in an integrated multispot satellite communication system (S) in a multimedia broadcasting network for setting up bi-directional communication with a satellite with return channel. The common burst synchronisation (4) is produced in such a way that the transmission rate in the downlink direction (P2; U2; C2) from the satellite is a whole multiple of the network clock reference.
Patent Number: 7,836,470
Public Date: November 16, 2010
Inventor: Ortega Rodriguez; Fernando (Madrid, ES), Rodriguez Martinez; Maria Africa (Madrid, ES)
Application Number: 09/986,555
Application Date: November 9, 2001
International Classification: H04N 7/20 (20060101)
Cooperative Classification: 725/63; 725/64; 725/65
Assignee: Alcatel (Paris, FR)
Nation: USA
http://en.zl50.com/920130202152298546.html
Alcatel (assignee) and Nant connection:
One of Hilel’s first announcements reveals that the acquired research and development center in Haifa, Israel will now become one of NantWorks’ largest R&D centers companywide. The Haifa facility will draw on a talent stream of leading engineers and engineering students from the nearby Matam – the largest and oldest-dedicated hi-tech park in Israel – and adjacent Technion – a world renowned science and engineering research university.
“The acquired Alcatel-Lucent’s DMS product portfolio, wide-ranging customer base, and – above all – the talented team responsible for connecting the two, all cohere with NantWorks’ over-arching mission to connect the world in previously impossible ways throughout health, media, and entertainment arenas,” said NantWorks Founding CEO Dr. Soon-Shiong. “We’ll rely on the team’s formidable, highly-prized DMS unit not just to align with NantWorks’ strategic ambitions, but to drive our pursuit of them.”
Alcatel-Lucent’s Digital Multimedia Solutions business has evolved out of the company’s 2006 acquisition of the Israeli startup Mobilitec. This is the same team who envisioned the Apps on mobile devices reality in 2000, and its products and services will continue to be developed in a continuing spirit, of innovation, commitment to the digital lifestyle, and accountability to its loyal customers.
http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20131031005553/en/NantWorks%C2%A0and-Alcatel-Lucent-Enter-Definitive-Agreement-Acquisition-Alcatel-Lucent’s#.VFrTlCiRmkg
An older report from the WSJ:
And while he stopped short of saying that his new company–Los Angeles-based Nantworks LLC–will definitely file to go public, he said he expects the company to become a powerful standalone player in the high-tech health system that the country is moving toward. He talked to Venture Capital Dispatch about the complex picture for new biotech issues on the public market
Dr. Soon never divulge any information regarding if and how he is going to take NANTWORKS LLC to the market.
http://blogs.wsj.com/venturecapital/2014/06/26/doctor-founder-billionaire-talks-about-biotech-investment-stocks/
Great Post Chachagirl - posting from phone at work earlier. Sorry :( Gotta give credit where due!!
Nice post with outstanding key points!
Very well said!
WELL SAID HB ! Great Info Ip Man! I would only add the Dr's personal history shows he would prefer to NOT provide REAMS of paperwork to SEC for all to pick apart only to risk decline of approval months later and give others a jump on his entire "system" he has created on a international level. Hence, Manhattan Project and his penchant for secrecy! The DD to back up all claims is on KEYO board with links, just may take a while to read and comphrehend. A LOT of DD !!!
TripleZ: He would own 80% of NANT, period. And, let us not forget, money earned on an IPO doesn't go in anybody's pocket, its the company's money.
So, saying "he'll make billions w/ an IPO" is just hogwash. He doesn't make jack until he sells shares.
He'll own more shares total of NANT if he RTM's vs. if he IPO's.
It's that simple.
lns
TripleZ: I did have my math wrong! haha...
But, still, notta too bad a return...
1% would be 5MM shares which would be ~5:1 R/S from current O/S (~rounding down to 25MM for simplicity sake)
20K shares / 5 = 4000 shares
$7.7BB / 500MM = $15.40/share x 4000 = $61,600.00
lns
Well put Chachagirl! Some time reading the KEYO board posts from ~#2000 on up will be time well spent, too!
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TripleZ: He owns 30MM shares of KEYO common stock. Take my previous example and what would he make?
30MM / 5 = 6MM
6MM x $15.40 = $92MM
But, that's only his KEYO shares and that's only "Day 1" straight market cap based on Forbes valuation of Nantworks, LLC.
He still would own 80% of the new NANT...that won't change and 80% is control and that's his MO. Whenever he decides to sell NantWorks, LLC, he gets his 80% back in cash.
If he took NantWorks, LLC public via a traditional IPO, he'd lose that 80% control. Control is key. He won't lose it.
Raising money? He's a money magnet. The #1 reason to go public via a traditional IPO is to raise money. He don't need no stinkin' Wall St. TBTF bank to help him raise money. And what a pain in his arse. You know how much time he'd have to spend doing the stupid "road show" for nothing, diverting him from his real work? He's not going to do that. And, where's the rumble about an IPO? We would've hear something by now if that were going to happen, IMO.
I say that because, don't forget, per Forbes - if he is most likely going to "IPO" his first tracking stock for the NantHealth, LLC subsidiary as early as next year, I'd think the Parent Company stock would/should be trading already for a number of months prior to that first subsidiary tracking stock is made public.
I look at the Forbes article and I think it's one of those cases where what's left unsaid is what's of utmost importance.
In this case, the author did NOT mention AT ALL how the Parent Company, NantWorks, LLC, was going public, or when.
I think because he wasn't told jack about that because that would be insider trading and Dr.SS's vision would suddenly go dark.
lns
Thanks lens and chacha... So lens from what I understand is that in reality PSS would only be giving away 1% away of NANT to us keyo investors if he did the rtm?
TripleZ: You can't really think of it like that. The 80/20 rule...it's the way RTM's work.
I was talking to a broker dude last night who was saying after the new capital structure is out post RTM, the current O/S would only be ~1% of the new total capital structured O/S.
OK, let's take that and work it out w/ using 20K shares of KEYO w/ current O/S of 25MM (rounding down) to a $7.7BB market cap (per Forbes NantWorks, LLC estimated valuation) and 500MM O/S share structure for the new NANT.
1% would be 5MM shares which would be ~5:1 R/S from current O/S
20K shares / 5 = 5000 shares
$7.7BB / 500MM = $15.40/share x 5000 = $77,000.00
Not bad, if I have my math right.
lns
p.s. - Welcome!
You are asking good questions. I think it's a combination of factors. The Good Doctor wants to create a paradigm shift in healthcare to include a better path for treating cancer and to treat childhood diseases using the advances in genomics. He has a history of maintaining 80% control so nothing is up for vote - period. That is so important and can not be overstated. With an IPO he could make more money but then he has the tax liability that comes along with that. A reverse merger is classified as a reorganization. He also would likely not have 80% control with an IPO.
Also remember before anything else he is a physician and a humanitarian. He thinks it's silly to be termed "the richest doctor in the world." This is about raising money (no money, no mission) but it's also about creating the paradigm shift and helping people. NANT stands for "he who speaks for the people." I think when you look at the complete picture, it is highly likely some of us random people will financially benefit using this capital raising strategy. Lucky us.
It's this kind of post that sparks so much provoked thought, it makes one wonder how we ever got along without our daily serving of Spam & Blog...
Thanks Heidi and IP man... I understand the requirement of it for the reverse merger is for liquidity but I mean if he went public through an IPO, that 20% that'd he already has given up to keyo investors if he did a rtm could be sold to the public actually giving him and raising money for the 20% or however much he'd like to sell off in an IPO... So my question is why miss up on that capital he would revive through an IPO rather than just giving away for free whatever percent us KEYO shareholders already hold which PSS gets nothing from but he'd instantly make us millionaires from his baby NANT
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The ownership of shares by "random" people is important because of:
A certain % of the float must remain publicly traded (by law)for a reverse merger to take place.
We are a necessary evil Congrats on your golden tickets
Why would PSS give away 20% away of his equity of NANT to random people who already publicly hold keyo who have done nothing to help NANT? I'm long on KEYO only because of the potential but I don't see why he would bring NANT public through keyo giving away some of NANTs equity to us random investors in keyo? Please someone prove my logic wrong
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Background on Dr. Patrick Soon-Shiong, M.D., MSc, FRCS(C), FACS.
BIOGRAPHY:
Wikipedia
Curriculum Vitae
Chinese American Heroes
HIS VISION:
05/xx/98 | Can Dr. Soon-Shiong Perform Miracles? - A New Trial for 24 Islet Cell Transplant Recipients | |
10/06/03 | Vindication - VivoRX to APP [Forbes] | |
xx/xx/05 | American Pharmaceutical Partners, Inc. History | |
10/29/09 | Billionaire offers $100-million guaranty to reopen King hospital | |
11/10/11 | Billionaire Patrick Soon-Shiong Wants To Remake The U.S. Health Care System | |
02/28/12 | The Cook Report on The Networked Health Information Technology Universe of Dr. Patrick Soon Shiong | |
10/03/12 | "This is something the federal government should have done, but we waited and waited for them," Soon-Shiong told Reuters in an interview. | |
01/14/14 | #knowyourself- A collection of news and information in science, technology, and health. - Spotlight: Patrick Soon-Shiong | |
09/xx/14 | Bipartisan Policy Center - Innovative Strategies from America's Business Leaders - A report from the CEO Council on Health and Innovation (A large .pdf file. Well worth the read, particularly ppgs 89 - 95 and pg 103: Overview and Appendix A) | |
NOTABLE NEWS:
10/27/11 | PSS tries to save the CCMS. A good look into what he faces with governmental beauracracy. Part 1 : Part 2 : Part 3 : Part 4 | |
CORPORATE LINKS: | OTHER LINKS: |
NantWorks | Nant Holdings IP, LLC - Intellectual Property held by NantWorks - Patents and Trademarks |
NantStudio | PSS's IP - Dr. Patrick Soon-Shiong's Patent Portfolio |
NantCloud - Teaser! | California Capital Equity, LLC - IP - SEC Docs - PSS's controling interest in KeyOn Communications Holdings, Inc, - OTCPK: KEYO |
NantMobile | Nant Capital, LLC - IP |
NantHealth | Expression Pathology Inc - IP |
NantPharma | California Capital Z, LLC - PSS's investment in Jakks Pacific - NASDAQ: JAKK |
NantCell - No URL | Nant Capital, LLC |
NantBioscience - No URL | Nant Media, LLC |
NantTronics - No URL | Nant TV |
NantOmics - No URL | Nant Vision |
NantShield - No URL | Tom Wittenschlaeger's IP |
NantSound, INC | |
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